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    My new AGP Numbers

    So as I'm filling up my pool I checked my numbers with a Walmart Test kit.

    My numbers are:
    9 TC
    8 PH
    120ppm TA
    120ppm TH
    CYA was so low the test failed twice.

    Any advice?
    17' Round Above Ground Polygroup Pool, 5725 Gallons, F1500c Pump with 1500 GPH Flow.

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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    1. Get a good test kits such as the ones recommended on this site.
    2. Read and re-read pool school while you are waiting for the test kits.
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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    While you read Pool School, take a look at Temporary/Seasonal Pools section, as well as Test Kits Compared section. In these sections you ought to take notes or print out some parts.

    When you get to the part about the Pool Calculator slow down and play with the calculator for awhile. This calculator will be what you use, along with your test kit, to decide what your pool needs and how to deliver that to the pool. There may be several choices when it comes to chemicals to do a particular job. Down at the bottom notice Effects of Adding Chemicals -- this will help you to understand the differences between two different products that can be used to do the same thing, for each may have other effects that may be of interest.
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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    I've been reading the Pool School and I temporary bought a Walmart HTH 6 to 1 pool test kit so I can get initial numbers. I'll be ordering the TF100 kit as soon as I can.
    I'm trying to figure out what to add or not with the calculator but with numbers like this, I'm confused.
    I bought Bleach, Borax, Baking soda, Poly 60, and Dichlor so I'm ready. Water is really clear but with 5700 gallons, I can smell the Chlorine the city puts in the water.
    17' Round Above Ground Polygroup Pool, 5725 Gallons, F1500c Pump with 1500 GPH Flow.

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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    What if anything have you added to the water?
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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    I have added nothing to the water yet. This is the water coming out of the tap from the city. I wasn't expecting the numbers to be so high so I could follow the Pool School instructions but since they are, I'm stumped.
    17' Round Above Ground Polygroup Pool, 5725 Gallons, F1500c Pump with 1500 GPH Flow.

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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Scooby59
    I have added nothing to the water yet. This is the water coming out of the tap from the city. I wasn't expecting the numbers to be so high so I could follow the Pool School instructions but since they are, I'm stumped.
    EDIT: Forgot that this was not with the FAS-DPD test - Ignore.

    9ppm Free Chlorine from the TAP???? That's 18 drops on the 10ml sample right? I'd hate to shower in that. You might want to double check it.
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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    How are you getting a TC of 9? The six way kit at walMart has a color block TC chart with the top value being at 5ppm?
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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    Ok, I feel like a goof. I read it wrong. It was so yellow that I read it was a 5 to 10 with it on the high side. Looking at a picture of the tester, it's a 5ppm for CL and 10 for Br but I didn't do a Br test.(that I remember).
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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    Where is your TC level today?
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Scooby59
    Ok, I feel like a goof. I read it wrong. It was so yellow that I read it was a 5 to 10 with it on the high side. Looking at a picture of the tester, it's a 5ppm for CL and 10 for Br but I didn't do a Br test.(that I remember).
    Easy mistake to make!

    OK - so FC was 5 or so. That's still very high for municipal water - that test is very subjective and I'd believe anything from 1-3ppm would be normal for most city water - 5ppm is pretty stout!

    Your City Water: http://www.cityofdenton.com/Modules/Sho ... ntid=11716

    Code:
    Constituent DateTested Unit AverageLevel MinimumLevel MaximumLevel
    Chloramines 2011 ppm 3.35 0.70 4.40
    So your water might read 5ppm or close to it if 4.40 is the max allowed by that treatment facility.
    Inlaws Pool Boy since June 14th 2012, Pool built ~ 2003, In-Ground, 16'x32'
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    sand filter, A.O. Smith 1.5HP main pump motor (C48L2N134C1),
    Hayward SuperPump (model ?), Polaris 380 & PB4 Booster Pump

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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    I just checked and my numbers now are: (now that I'm reading the gauge correctly)

    3.5 CL
    8 PH
    120 TA
    120 TH

    Is this a better starting place?
    17' Round Above Ground Polygroup Pool, 5725 Gallons, F1500c Pump with 1500 GPH Flow.

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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Scooby59
    I just checked and my numbers now are: (now that I'm reading the gauge correctly)

    3.5 CL
    8 PH
    120 TA
    120 TH

    Is this a better starting place?
    Maybe; is TH = Calcium Hardness ?
    The pH needs to come down a bit.
    Inlaws Pool Boy since June 14th 2012, Pool built ~ 2003, In-Ground, 16'x32'
    13500 gal, Vinyl Liner, Fiberglass Slide, TF-100 Test Kit, Hayward 210T
    sand filter, A.O. Smith 1.5HP main pump motor (C48L2N134C1),
    Hayward SuperPump (model ?), Polaris 380 & PB4 Booster Pump

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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    Yes, TH is total Hardness.

    I can do the same tests in my kit minus the FC test. I have a total Chlorine test.

    I hope I'm not confusing.
    17' Round Above Ground Polygroup Pool, 5725 Gallons, F1500c Pump with 1500 GPH Flow.

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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    Do my calculations look close?
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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    I'm not sure if the other post worked correctly.
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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    TH includes CH but also includes mangnesium hardness...but don't worry about it since TH is low and low is not a problem for vinyl. So don't add anything to increase CH.

    The rest of your PC screenshot looks good.
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Re: My new AGP Numbers

    You need to get some CYA in there first to maintain the chlorine levels.
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