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    How to level out pool steps????

    We had our pool bottom done in concrete/vermiculite base. Installers gave a slight slope a couple feet from the pool sides up to the pool side. Problem now is new steps( link provided ) will not sit level up against side of pool. (( http://www.poolcenter.com/images/confer ... n-pool.jpg ))

    Anyone have any cheap way to level the bottom of these steps off? Would have to be in plastic I assume?? Some sort of wedge? We do have a nice heavy pad under these steps, but the steps are probably, best I can measure is 3" out of level. The front of the steps want to lean into the center of the pool.

    Any ideas how to solve this???
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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    Drill an attachment onto both sides of the steps onto the poolside and add a couple of wedges to the front of the steps on the pool floor would be my best guess, I say attachment onto the poolside as you are going to have stabilty issues with the steps otherwise.

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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    When we built our sand cove we made it slope far more than we should have. We purchased a new set of steps similar to yours but another brand.

    We ended up using an aerobics step on the bottom. Our steps are 38 inches wide and they fit fine on top of the aerobics step. We used stainless screws to attach the aerobics step to the bottom of the pool steps. This gives us an extra step in the pool but works fine for us. The aerobics step I have allows me enough room to vac under it.
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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    I was thinking along the lines of getting some 3" thick plastic and ripping a wedge on a table saw to level out the steps. Counter sink a carriage bolt into it through the step legs. Problem is where to get thick plastic easily???
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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    And cheaply! Do you have roadwork cones like we have in UK with the big heavy plastic feet? They are around 3" and very sturdy! Something along those lines!

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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    Something like a thick plastic cone bottom would be perfect. Where to find one??
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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    Trip to Britain's motorway system is in order, we have more cones over here than we have miles of road!!
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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    And I would only need one.
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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    Plastic shims? In the door & windows aisles at HD

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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    Top98percent,
    I need to come up 3 inches in the front of these steps? Sounds good, but would these give me that kind of height??
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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    They're the same as wood wedge shims. Stack to get your height. Ifdo remember correctly, the pack stacked is about 3 in. Under $2. Would need to fasten the pack together somehow.

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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    Have you considered using winter water weight bags or even buiding a small base using one of the PVC decking products. I am thinking like the Veranda stuff at HD, I think the decking boards are about .94 inches thick so each one is like a 1 inch layer. You could screw to together them with stainless steel screws. You may need to round off the edges where it's cut. I have not used the Veranda stuff but it looks to be almost all plastic/resin/pvc...

    Some of the other brands may be more (or all) PVC
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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    Just remembered, called shim-it composite shim.

    Like the composite decking idea.

    Also could look at pvc trim boards stacked...

    Rip a 6" section of pvc pipe?




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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    If you took 3 inch PVC tubing and made a large wide H-shaped structure it might sit underneath ladder, you could make the wall side 2 inch tubing and the other side 3 inch, or whatever it takes to flatten it. Use adapters in the middle.
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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    I don't know where you are located, but Innovaplas (based in Quebec, Canada - they took over Lumi-O) do these suction cup feet:

    http://innovaplas.com/accessories/9060/

    Just requires drilling 1/4" holes in the step base. There is also an optional spacer for leveling on sloped pool floors (see the installation document).
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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    This is the installation document.LINK Might work... I don't know how much height they add.
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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    Techguy,
    The suction cup thing looks interesting. I'll have to see how much height it does give. I don't know zFrench, but work with someone who does.
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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    The link looks interesting. I wonder if there some place in the states you could order from. I will have to do a google search tomorrow.
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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    I did consider the suction cup feet myself, for similar reasons - the Lumi-O steps I have are designed for a level pool bottom and mine (vinyl AGP) has a slope, which resulted in the steps tending to lean forward and rock back and forth when used. I've got some vinyl bath mats under them currently, which seem to help, at least in preventing indentation of the liner, but algae grows easily on the inside of the steps, due to the poor circulation. The suction feet are supposed to help with that also.

    I looked at a sample in one of the local pool stores (I live in Quebec). I got the impression that the cup does pretty much flatten out under the weight of the step or with persons on it. Whether it stays like that I guess depends on how well the suction holds to the pool floor. Not sure how much extra height the spacer adds either. From the looks of it, maybe 3-4" Why not contact them? They do speak ze Anglais.
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    Re: How to level out pool steps????

    Quote Originally Posted by deweypip
    Techguy,
    The suction cup thing looks interesting. I'll have to see how much height it does give. I don't know zFrench, but work with someone who does.

    There is an English site, click on the "English" box towards the upper right corner of the web page. Or click the link below

    http://innovaplas.com/accessories/9060/?lang=en

    Or order the parts here: http://innovaplas.com/services/parts/index.php?lang=en

    Isn't that a Confer made ladder, do they have similar items for Confer?

    like these? LINK
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