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    Balance. Why the heck...

    ... are we using such a silly word for keeping the chemical parameters of swimming pool water aligned?

    We can fiddle around in a pretty broad range of FC/TC, TA, pH, etc., and still have sparkly pool water. The term balance just doesn't seem right. Trust me, I've heard it used for quite a while - managed my first commercial pool in 1978 and have had my current residential pool since 1995 - but, it never seemed like quite the right way to describe properly managed pool water.

    Wadda y'all think? Does balanced make sense or is there a more appropriate term?

    Just a think piece and I hope I posted it out of the main stream.

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    Re: Balance. Why the heck...

    Balanced seems easier to say than "All tested parameters are within the recommended ranges based upon the given criteria."
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    Re: Balance. Why the heck...

    The balance in the pool chemistry is between the levels of the chemicals in the pool and what is needed to keep the water clean and safe. So while the ranges may be different for different people, depending on bather load, sanitation method, pool size, and the location, (snow belt vs. sun belt) if you're water is clear and swimmable, then you have achieved water chemistry balance.

    IMHO, anyway.
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    Balance includes the ranges.
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    Re: Balance. Why the heck...

    Derek - Your description of balanced is probably what many people expect it to be. It has so many variables in it, though, including location, that balanced for me wouldn't be the same as balanced for DURaleigh or balanced for Henry Porter or balanced for Chem Geek. Maybe that's why our resident experts ask for pool details in our signature blocks & details such as TC/FC/CC, CYA, pH, TA, CH, etc. before offering suggestions.

    I think you're helping to make the argument that balanced has no universally accepted meaning.

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    Re: Balance. Why the heck...

    One of the common dictionary definitions of balanced is "arranged in good proportions", which strikes me as exactly what adjusting chemical levels is all about.
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    Re: Balance. Why the heck...

    I think that balanced is the correct word. It's just that different pools are balanced with varying levels of chemical components.

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    I think that "Balance" is an excellent word for the chemistry. There are important relationships and equilibria between different chemical species, and understanding how each affects the others is critical to maintaining good water quality.

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    My six year old daughter gets in the pool every night and first thing she does is go under without her goggles, eyes open. She comes up, and tells me "Pool is Balanced" if her eyes don't hurt (which thanks to all of you, is pretty much every day). More accurate than strips, from what I gather. I will keep using the word!
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    Re: Balance. Why the heck...

    Quote Originally Posted by crek31
    My six year old daughter gets in the pool every night and first thing she does is go under without her goggles, eyes open. She comes up, and tells me "Pool is Balanced" if her eyes don't hurt (which thanks to all of you, is pretty much every day). More accurate than strips, from what I gather. I will keep using the word!
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    Re: Balance. Why the heck...

    Quote Originally Posted by yeggim
    Boom. Game Set Match. Balanced it is.
    Quote Originally Posted by 257WbyMag
    I think that balanced is the correct word. It's just that different pools are balanced with varying levels of chemical components.
    OK. I'm all in! Like Yeggim said, balanced it is! 257WbyMag broke the code, though - different pools are balanced with different levels - and that's why we'll always be interested in the pool characteristics (plaster/vinyl/fiberglass) & the specific levels of Cl, CYA, pH, CH, etc.

    Thanks, everybody! Think piece over.

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    Re: Balance. Why the heck...

    I like Jasons's use of the dictionary definition, balanced, serves a description of pool water well, given your type of pool, whether you live in a soft or hard water area, what type of sanitiser you use and also encompasses your local legislate where applicable.

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