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    Cloudy water issues

    Currently the pool looks like skim milk. After searching and reading, it appears I need a good shock. I guess I misunderstood the shocking process from the get go and just bought a bag of shock and thought that would do it... LOL... that's what i get for listening to Leslies...

    Here are my current numbers as of yesterday late afternoon

    FC: 0
    CC: 0
    TA: 100-110
    CYA: 30 but put about 2lbs in a sock last night
    Salt: 2800

    I had a big party on the 4th so I kinda saw this coming...

    My questions are:

    Should I take the CYA sock out and shock from whatever level it is (only problem i see is i have a swg and it appears that the lowest level on the chart is 60)?
    While shocking is it ok to swim while the FC is that high??
    Should I dump shock/bleach in while pump is running and then test an hour later? (adding more if necessary)
    Should I do this all at night?
    Do I let the pump run all night?
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    Quote Originally Posted by DigiManTX
    Currently the pool looks like skim milk. After searching and reading, it appears I need a good shock. I guess I misunderstood the shocking process from the get go and just bought a bag of shock and thought that would do it... LOL... that's what i get for listening to Leslies...

    Here are my current numbers as of yesterday late afternoon

    FC: 0
    CC: 0
    TA: 100-110
    CYA: 30 but put about 2lbs in a sock last night
    Salt: 2800

    I had a big party on the 4th so I kinda saw this coming...

    My questions are:

    Should I take the CYA sock out and shock from whatever level it is (only problem i see is i have a swg and it appears that the lowest level on the chart is 60)? I would.
    While shocking is it ok to swim while the FC is that high?? Yes, in theory. The chlorine may bleach your suit. I wouldn't, just because you could get infections from various bacteria that may be in the water.
    Should I dump shock/bleach in while pump is running and then test an hour later? (adding more if necessary) That is the shock process in a nutshell
    Should I do this all at night? Yes, and possibly for days more
    Do I let the pump run all night?Yes.
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    You can remove CYA sock for the shocking process
    Yes, you can swim at shock levels
    Use pool calculator to determine required does of bleach to reach shock level. Then re-test several times per day and re-adjust FC
    Yes, pour bleach in while pump is running
    You should let pump run 24/7 during shocking process
    Make sure your SWG is OFF when you preform the OCLT

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    ok, so seems like i remove the sock... so seeing as the chart starts at cya level of 60 to bring FC to 24, what do i need to bring the FC to if my cya is at 30-40?
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    Quote Originally Posted by DigiManTX
    ok, so seems like i remove the sock... so seeing as the chart starts at cya level of 60 to bring FC to 24, what do i need to bring the FC to if my cya is at 30-40?
    Use the non-SWG chart, because you're switching to bleach for this process. Aim for 16.
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard320
    Quote Originally Posted by DigiManTX
    ok, so seems like i remove the sock... so seeing as the chart starts at cya level of 60 to bring FC to 24, what do i need to bring the FC to if my cya is at 30-40?
    Use the non-SWG chart, because you're switching to bleach for this process. Aim for 16.
    hmmm... but my water is still salt. does that not matter? i just assumed use bleach as it said it was better to use a liquid chlorine. would i be better off buying the bags of shock then?
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    Quote Originally Posted by DigiManTX
    hmmm... but my water is still salt. does that not matter? i just assumed use bleach as it said it was better to use a liquid chlorine. would i be better off buying the bags of shock then?
    Salt doesn't matter. Use bleach - the bags of "shock" will add either Calcium or more CYA, which will lead to more problems down the road.
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard320
    Salt doesn't matter. Use bleach - the bags of "shock" will add either Calcium or more CYA, which will lead to more problems down the road.
    awesome! thank you! I'm planning on this tonight, so i'll post my results and hopefully a clear pool is in my future. I have been add "floc" thinking that would do it, but it just seemed to make it worse... LOL
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    Likely that some of your clouding is due to overuse of that flock.
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    Quote Originally Posted by linen
    Likely that some of your clouding is due to overuse of that flock.
    i only add it when cloudy... when it didn't work this time, i knew it had to be something else... so it wasn't overkill or anything...
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    Don't forget the job of flocl is to "cloud" the pool by combining/lumping debris into larger pieces of debris. The larger pieces may then be vacuumed out. In most cases, the flocced debris will sink to the bottom this requires turning off you pump. Adding chlorine to shock your pool requires you run the pump. You cannot do both shock and flock at the sometime. Turning off your pump when you need to shock is inviting a huge algae bloom ...a big green, cloudy bloom.
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    just had another question pop up... looks like we're in for a good deal amount of rain over the next few days... should i wait to shock until after all that is done? or will it be a problem?
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    I, personally, would continue shocking and react to the water as it changes. This is why we recommend the test kits. If you know what is going on inside the pool's water, you can make informed decisions, not guesstimates.
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    Got the FC up to 15-16 last night before bed. Woke up this morning and down to:

    FC: 4
    CC: 2.5
    a tad clearer, but not much... i can at least see that there IS a bottom now... LOL
    completely brushed the pool

    Am I supposed to keep this process going throughout the day (adding bleach / checking every hour) or should I wait til the sun goes down?
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    during the shock process you need to test your water about every hour and add bleach to maintain shock level all throughout the day and night, it takes some time to complete but it is well worth it in the end, it will seem like a full time job but test,add bleach,test ,add bleach repeat
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    well crapazoid... guess i need more bleach... LOL
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    Yeah with your OCLT of about 7-8 ppm and your 2.5 CC, you got a lot of algae killing to go. Good news is your making progress!
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    there is never problems here just solutions........lol
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    Did a lot of work yesterday and made a lot of progress as far as clarity goes, but still jacked

    Last night before bed:

    FC: 13
    CC: 2.5

    This morning water is pretty clear (just dull... missing that "season start" crispness) BUT...

    FC: 2.5
    CC: 1.5

    GRRRR... guess I know what I'm doing again today...
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    Re: Cloudy water issues

    Hey DigiManTx, could you put your pool and equipment specs in your sig? It help us help you...and I don'tsee your pool volume anywhere.

    What is your cya level now?
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