Become a TFP Supporter Pool Math Forum Rules Pool School
Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: Brand new to pools... please give some opinions

  1. Back To Top    #1

    Brand new to pools... please give some opinions

    All,

    I'm contemplating a new pool here in sweltering North Texas. Have gotten a design from a reputable PB. My first questions are these.

    1. With easements etc.. I can only swing a 15' X 30' mostly geometric pool. Is this a typical residential pool size or is it really too small to justify the large costs of pools these days?
    2. With a pool of this size, my PB has scoped in a 2HP single speed pump. I know there's lots of opinions on pumps but if I have to go with single speed, do you want as much as you can get or would you rather have a smaller one that runs a bit longer and more efficiently. Again, consider this is a smallish pool.

    I will likely have more questions but would greatly appreciate your expert inputs as I have yet to sign a contract.

    Regards,
    C

  2. Back To Top    #2
    JasonLion's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Silver Spring, MD
    Posts
    37,879

    Re: Brand new to pools... please give some opinions

    Welcome to TFP!

    15' x 30' is a decent size, many pools are smaller than that.

    If you don't have any water features (fountain, waterfall, spa, etc) then a smaller pump is better, preferably a two speed.
    19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot
    Creator of PoolMath and Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School

  3. Back To Top    #3
    tjwaggoner's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Ashland KY
    Posts
    88

    Re: Brand new to pools... please give some opinions

    My pool is roughly 28x15. the PB initially had a 1.5hp pump on it and it was too noisy for my tastes. Asked him to replace it with a .75hp and much much happier and my pool couldnt tell the difference.
    10,000gal fiberglass kidney
    3/4 hp whisperflo
    Sand dollar SD80
    IC40 SWCG
    (2) PAL2000 multi colored LED lights
    all 2" plumbing
    no water features/no spa
    TF Testkit

  4. Back To Top    #4

    Re: Brand new to pools... please give some opinions

    Jason,

    I don't have a spa but do have some water features that I wanted to run independently so he added a booster pump for those scuppers and rain descents. So, could I do with a smaller pump and be in just as good or better shape?

    Thanks in advance.

  5. Back To Top    #5
    linen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts
    8,649

    Re: Brand new to pools... please give some opinions

    Yes, a smaller pump should work fine. Don't skimp on filter size...what filter type and size are you doing?
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

  6. Back To Top    #6

    Re: Brand new to pools... please give some opinions

    Hi Linen,

    All I know is what's on the cost quote which says Jandy CV460. Is that a good size for my proposed pool?

  7. Back To Top    #7
    BoDarville's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    DFW, Texas
    Posts
    3,840

    Re: Brand new to pools... please give some opinions

    cjcsmt:

    As long as you are in the market for a pump, I would at least look into the 2-speed and multi-speed pumps and do some cost/benefit/payback analysis for your pool using local electric rates. The energy savings can be significant. For example, when you reduce a pool pump's speed to half (50%) of full speed, the kilowatts needed to run it are approximately 1/8 of what it takes compared to running it at full speed. To achieve the same water turnover rate, you need to run the pump for twice the amount of time at half-speed compared to full speed. Accounting for that increased run time at half-speed, your still only using 1/4 the kilowatts to get one turnover of water compared to running the pump at full speed. Multi-speed pumps can offer even more speed flexibility and energy savings compared to 2-speed pumps. But keep in mind, each pool (and its features) is different and "your mileage may vary."

    Here are a couple of articles that explain this in more detail:
    http://www.swimming-pool-information...eed-pumps.html
    http://www.articlecity.com/articles/...cle_5162.shtml
    Gold Supporter, TFP Lifetime Supporter, 26,680 gal Plaster IGP 3.5 - 10' depth / Attached Waterfall Spa, Manually Chlorinated, Triton Sand Filter, 1.5 HP * 1.1 SF = 1.65 SFHP 1-speed Pentair WhisperFlo WF-26 Pump, 400K BTU NG Teledyne Laars Series One Heater, Polaris 360, Test Kit Comparison, Chlorine/CYA Chart, SLAMing Your Pool, OCLT
    A good test kit is an investment, not an expense.

  8. Back To Top    #8
    linen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts
    8,649

    Re: Brand new to pools... please give some opinions

    That is a 460 sq. ft. filter, which for you pool volume of ~17000 (I assumed 5 ft average depth), is definetly bigger than our minimum recommended size of 252 sq. ft....so it is a great choice (you really can't go to big on cartridge filters).

    I agree with BoDarville that a 2-speed pump is preferred, though I think the power is 1/4 when running on low (not 1/8th)....so it ends up using about 1/2 of the power to turn the pool over.
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

  9. Back To Top    #9

    Re: Brand new to pools... please give some opinions

    Thanks guys... but, let me put in another way. For a pool that's only say 13000 gallons, if you choose single speed, is 2HP overkill or will 1.5 or 1 do the job. Keep in mind I have a booster for scuppers and descents.

    Thanks!

  10. Back To Top    #10
    linen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts
    8,649

    Re: Brand new to pools... please give some opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by cjcsmt
    Thanks guys... but, let me put in another way. For a pool that's only say 13000 gallons, if you choose single speed, is 2HP overkill or will 1.5 or 1 do the job.
    Yes a 3/4 hp would generally be a better fit, unless you are doing something out the ordinary with your plumbing.
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •