Become a TFP Supporter Pool Math Forum Rules Pool School
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 22

Thread: TF-100 Test Kit is the Best!!!!!

  1. Back To Top    #1
    billyjoeraybob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    SC Midlands
    Posts
    50

    TF-100 Test Kit is the Best!!!!!

    I ordered my TF-100 last week and it arrived in 2 days! I is great. The kit is well organized and the directions are very clear. The only improvement I could recommend would be to increase the font size on the directions for those of us with aging eyes. I used it for the first time last night and felt like the mad scientist. My daughter thought it was like magic to see the colors change. I highly recommend this kit.

    Bill
    Bill
    18' x 36' Freeform IG Gunite with 7' spa, Super Blue DiamondBrite, Pentair 1.5 hp circulation pump, Pentair 2.0 hp spa booster pump, Pentair Triton II Sand filter, Polaris 280 with booster pump, Pentair Intellichlor IC40 SWCG, Jandy Laars LX 250k btu NG heater, TF-100 test kit from http://www.tftestkits.com/

  2. Back To Top    #2
    Butterfly's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    South Carolina
    Posts
    10,045
    What a great review!

    The mad scientist
    TFP Moderator TF100 Test Kit TF100 TestKit YouTube Channel PoolMath
    You're done SLAMing when:
    1)You lose 1ppm or less FC overnight, & 2)You have .5ppm CC's or less, & 3)your water is clear.

    ~ One should not use a sledge hammer to swat a mosquito. ~

    If you found TFP helpful and we saved you money ... Become a TFP Supporter!

  3. Back To Top    #3

    In the Industry

    duraleigh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Sebring, Florida
    Posts
    30,082
    Billyjoeraybob,

    As we discussed, the $50.00 is in the mail to you!!!

    Thank you very much for the nice words about the kit. The font size is a PITA for me, too. The snag we keep hitting is it's the largest we can use and still get adequate info on the size label that we use. A larger label on the inside is really nasty looking so, for now, we're kinda stuck with what we have.

    I am appreciative of ANY comments or suggestions on ways to improve the kit. The two guidelines I sorta use are:

    1. An improvement should not increase the cost to the consumer unless the vast majority of consumers are requesting it.

    2. Any change should not impede our ability to ship quickly. This inhibits us from adding a lot of options as we pre-make these kits and they are sitting on the shelf when you order.
    Dave S.
    42k vinyl and concrete pool, 1.5hp pump, 140gpm filter
    TFTestkits , PoolMath , Pool School

  4. Back To Top    #4
    AnnaK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Eastern Pennsylvania
    Posts
    1,134
    I just recommended the TF-100 to a friend who's closing on her house on May 1. First time pool owner! She asked what test kit I use and I told her, "There's only ONE that's any good" and gave her the link.

    Ok, improvements to the TF-100.

    1. Could you make the calcium test chemicals optional? I don't use those chemicals at all and, in fact, will be glad to mail them to whoever might need them. Calcium hardness is not enough of concern to me to be tested with any regularity. For its value I take a sample to the pool store at the beginning of the season and maybe once in high summer.

    2. How about including a free CD (CDs are cheap) which contains text files of the stickies here on the board? And maybe a sample spreadsheet for logging test results? The label could have the TFP logo (would that be a copyright violation?) and the URL to TFP and your test kits site.

    The CD could include images of the individual test bottles labeled with the number and show the label text in larger font size. Ditto for instructions.

    Why a CD? Because sometimes Internet connections fail, we can't get to TFP but have to have the info right now. Or we have the laptop poolside but the wireless connection doesn't work there. And besides, people love freebies.

    AnnaK
    AnnaK

    12,500 gal AGP, Hayward sand filter, Pentair 2-speed pump, timer.
    Please visit our Pool Issues pages for information about step weights, managing the solar cover, and PoolSkim.

  5. Back To Top    #5

    In the Industry

    duraleigh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Sebring, Florida
    Posts
    30,082
    Good morning, Anna,

    Unlike the FC test, the Ch test is probably the least expensive test to include in the kit. It would have very little affect on the overall cost of the kit to exclude it and, even if infrequently, it's an important test....esp. for gunite pools.

    Another issue with making it optional is the newbie purchaser probably doesn't know if he needs it or not so better to include it in there. Problematic pool water can often be the result of high calcium so we need that test result for diagnosis.

    The CD idea is interesting. I probably don't have anywhere near the volume to produce something like that but the idea is a good one. I'll look at some costs and see how that would work. If SeanB ever sues me for using his logo, I'll appeal to the forum members and we'll all descend on Houston and tar and feather him!!
    Dave S.
    42k vinyl and concrete pool, 1.5hp pump, 140gpm filter
    TFTestkits , PoolMath , Pool School

  6. Back To Top    #6
    Butterfly's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    South Carolina
    Posts
    10,045
    Quote Originally Posted by duraleigh
    Good morning, Anna,

    ...... If SeanB ever sues me for using his logo, I'll appeal to the forum members and we'll all descend on Houston and tar and feather him!!
    Yea, and while we are at it, we'll use his pool and make him cook up some Texas ribs & chicken 8)

    ETA: Of course, I meant BBQ!
    TFP Moderator TF100 Test Kit TF100 TestKit YouTube Channel PoolMath
    You're done SLAMing when:
    1)You lose 1ppm or less FC overnight, & 2)You have .5ppm CC's or less, & 3)your water is clear.

    ~ One should not use a sledge hammer to swat a mosquito. ~

    If you found TFP helpful and we saved you money ... Become a TFP Supporter!

  7. Back To Top    #7
    AnnaK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Eastern Pennsylvania
    Posts
    1,134
    Yes, that's a good point about new pool owners not knowing whether they need it. I didn't, that's for sure. In fact, I was told by the pool store (who KNEW I have a vinyl lined AGP) that I had to add 40 pounds of one thing or another to raise Ca hardness. Forty pounds of anything seemed a little excessive to me . . . and that's how I found Ben's forum. And now I'm here, all because of CH

    Producing the CD would be a relatively easy thing to do. It doesn't have to be fancy with illustrations or graphics. If Sean would allow the stikies to be used it'd be a matter of copy-and-paste into a .rtf or .txt file which is readable by any OS. The most time consuming chore would be burning it but heck, you can set that up while testing your CYA. Or pay a teenager to do it.

    As to tarring and feathering Sean, won't that really mess up his pool?

    AnnaK
    AnnaK

    12,500 gal AGP, Hayward sand filter, Pentair 2-speed pump, timer.
    Please visit our Pool Issues pages for information about step weights, managing the solar cover, and PoolSkim.

  8. Back To Top    #8

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Gloucester County, NJ
    Posts
    141
    These all sound like great ideas....

    Here's another idea, though it's not necessarily so much of an improvement to the TF-100. Rather, it's more of and idea for an extension to Jason's Pool Calculator. These days, many of us have portable web devices such as the dreaded Blackberry. While many of us can browse the internet with these devices, certain websites often times do not work. In my case, the Pool Calculator does not work because JavaScript is required and I don't seem to have a way to enable it. Would it be possible to make the Pool Calculator into a downloadable application for use on such devices? I have no idea what this would entail, but while being right at the pool, it would be great to get the answers to not only what needs to be adjusted (TF-100), but also be able to confirm how to make the adjustment (Jason's Pool Calculator).
    28,000 gallon gunite/white plaster with 30ft RBB and 2ft sheer descent, 100 sq ft thermaledge, 50sq ft spa w/ 6 jets
    2HP Jandy pump, 60sq ft Jandy DE filter, 400,000 BTU Jandy LX Nat Gas Heater, 2 Jandy color lights + Jandy color spa light, Jandy Aqualink RS6, Jandy AquaPure 1400

  9. Back To Top    #9
    billyjoeraybob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    SC Midlands
    Posts
    50
    Duraleigh

    I'll be watching the mail!

    AnnaK did make me think of something. How about just putting a link to a TXT file or web page of the testing instructions on your website then us blind mad scientists could just download or copy them and adjust the font size.

    I would hate to blow myself up in the lab!

    Thanks,

    Bill
    Bill
    18' x 36' Freeform IG Gunite with 7' spa, Super Blue DiamondBrite, Pentair 1.5 hp circulation pump, Pentair 2.0 hp spa booster pump, Pentair Triton II Sand filter, Polaris 280 with booster pump, Pentair Intellichlor IC40 SWCG, Jandy Laars LX 250k btu NG heater, TF-100 test kit from http://www.tftestkits.com/

  10. Back To Top    #10
    JasonLion's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Silver Spring, MD
    Posts
    37,879
    My hope is that web connected smart phones that actually work with Javascript will become much more common in the next few years, so it will become practical to use the existing Pool Calculator without any significant work on my part.

    I have been thinking about making a native version of Pool Calculator for a smart phone or two but there would have to be a different version for each kind of smart phone (Palm, Blackberry, iPhone, etc.) and new kinds of smart phones are still coming out at a fair clip. To justify that much effort I would have to charge for it and have some expectation of selling a number of copies, and that doesn't seem all that likely. I am currently doing some iPhone development at work and I am toying with the notion of doing an iPhone version just to see if anyone is willing to pay for it.
    19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot
    Creator of PoolMath and Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School

  11. Back To Top    #11
    Guest
    Dave,
    As far as the small print goes...maybe include a magnifying glass option for those of you (Notice I don't include myself here! ) with failing eyesight! You could include one of those 'credit card' sized maginfiers in the kit.

  12. Back To Top    #12

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Los Angeles, Ca
    Posts
    218
    How about making a stickie with the test instructions?

    Then, those of you with failing eyes could print out the stickie, at a larger font size, to make it easier to read.
    I just have to take off my glasses to read, and put them on to drive.

    I was also thinking if including a CD in the kit does not work out (I like that idea, but would understand if logistics make it not practical), maybe we could create a zip file with the stickie contents, calculators, etc. Then, people could download it, and have it available anytime they need it.

    Randy
    25,000 gal fiberglass pool, Raypak 200k BTU H200FDN gas heater, Pentair CCP520 520 sq ft Cart filter, Max-Flo VS2303VSP pump. iWave wireless remote,

    seperate spa, with own pump, cartridge filter, Hayward H200FDN heater

  13. Back To Top    #13

    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Malaysia
    Posts
    109
    Yeah, I am in favour of the idea to have the instructions and pool calculator (even if at a minimal cost) downloadable. Our internet players always do yoyo..... My eyesight would prefer a font size 14 instruction to confidently read and carry out the test.....

    Vincent
    8,000 gal IG concrete & tiled lap pool, 1/2 hp pump, 24" sand filter, SWG Auto Clean, whole pool under shed, 3 X 2ft waterfall one end overflow the other end. TF100 Testkit. 80 F Water whole year round.

  14. Back To Top    #14

    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Suwanee, GA
    Posts
    528
    I like the CD idea, but perhaps you can throw some video clips on there of the tests actually being performed. You can narrate in all the rules/tips like the CL test turning clear then back to pink or to continue the TA test until the color changes no more. The CYA test could definitively benefit from video instructions.

    Dare I say it, but you could even charge extra for it.


    As for a wish list of my own. I want a magnetic stirrer built right in the center of the test kit. Pull the bottles out, close the lid and run my test right on the top of my TF kit!.
    Gary
    21k gal SW, IG Gunite PebbleSheen, 1HP Jandy, Jandy 340 filter, Polaris 280, 17' fiberglass slide w/ 2HP pump.

  15. Back To Top    #15

    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Valrico, FL
    Posts
    536
    An idea for a "protable" pool calculator is to use a low cost programmable calculator. You can usually get one at Wal-Mart for under $30. That is what I am using.
    7,500 gal, IG pool, L shape 22' x 15', 1.5 hp pump, cartridge filter, AquaPlus SWG/Controller, Pebble-Tec liner.

  16. Back To Top    #16

    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Malaysia
    Posts
    109
    Dschlic1,

    Though we are getting a bit out of topic but I'm sure most member would be interested in your programmable calculator. Please elaborate more on this.

    Vincent
    8,000 gal IG concrete & tiled lap pool, 1/2 hp pump, 24" sand filter, SWG Auto Clean, whole pool under shed, 3 X 2ft waterfall one end overflow the other end. TF100 Testkit. 80 F Water whole year round.

  17. Back To Top    #17

    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    San Rafael, CA USA
    Posts
    12,082
    Not for the faint of heart, but until a simpler downloadable pool calculator is available, especially on a portable device, you can use the chem geek spreadsheet -- that is, if you have masochistic tendencies. You'll still need to lug a laptop to the pool or run back and forth from the house, but if your Internet connection is down, then it's better than nothing.

    Richard
    16,000 gallon outdoor in-ground 16'x32' plaster pool; Pentair Intelliflo VF pump; Pentair IntelliTouch i9+3s control system; Jandy CL-340 square foot cartridge filter
    12 Fafco solar panels; Purex Triton PowerMax 250 natural gas heater (200,000 BTU/hr output); automatic electric pool safety cover; 4-wheel pressure-side "The Pool Cleaner"

  18. Back To Top    #18

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Hatfield, PA
    Posts
    259
    I'm glad you guys brought this up. While I love poolcalc the idea of testing, writing down the numbers and entering them later seems foreign to me. I'm a professional developer of applications for windows, windows mobile, smart phone, etc. I have around 30 windows mobile handhelds sitting in my office.

    My idea is this. I will create a windows mobile application and a companion windows application. Each person can have multiple pools and each pool every possible parameter available. The calculating portion of the program will be in both the windows mobile version (or smartphone) as well as the desktop version. You can enter values and submit them to the web service that I will run, or you can run your own web service if you have your own server. The details are still forming. I would make this program free and open source with donations welcome (because my internet bill is out of hand these days).

    I don't know if the smartphone version would work that well - primarily because I don't have the hardware to develop it. This all hinges on Jason feeling okay with me totally stealing the javascript from poolcalc for my own calculations. Who knows i could even release a .net managed class for others to use.

  19. Back To Top    #19

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Los Angeles, Ca
    Posts
    218
    Quote Originally Posted by chem geek
    Not for the faint of heart, but until a simpler downloadable pool calculator is available, especially on a portable device, you can use the chem geek spreadsheet -- that is, if you have masochistic tendencies. You'll still need to lug a laptop to the pool or run back and forth from the house, but if your Internet connection is down, then it's better than nothing.

    Richard
    Looking at this spreadsheet give me a whole new appreciation of your moniker

    Randy
    25,000 gal fiberglass pool, Raypak 200k BTU H200FDN gas heater, Pentair CCP520 520 sq ft Cart filter, Max-Flo VS2303VSP pump. iWave wireless remote,

    seperate spa, with own pump, cartridge filter, Hayward H200FDN heater

  20. Back To Top    #20
    JasonLion's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Silver Spring, MD
    Posts
    37,879
    If you have a real computer, but don't always have an Internet connection, you can save a copy of The Pool Calculator locally. Everything will work on the locally saved copy even without an Internet connection. This approach will also work on some of the high end mobile devices, so long as they have a web browser that can run Javascript.

    piku, you are welcome to copy the equations out of the Javascript code. Mostly, there is really just one equation with a different constant for each chemical, plus the CSI calculation, the PH/TA relationship, pool size, and units conversions.
    19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot
    Creator of PoolMath and Pool Calculator. Other handy links: Support this site, TF Test Kits, Pool School

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •