Become a TFP Supporter Pool Math Forum Rules Pool School
Results 1 to 11 of 11

Thread: Installing a cartride filter - need help with plumbing

  1. Back To Top    #1

    Installing a cartride filter - need help with plumbing

    Hi,

    I am going to be installing a new Hayward C4030 cartidge filter. Some questions. Since I need to be able to drain the pool, I will be adding a waste line/valve just before the filter inlet. Would I use a 2 or 3 way valve for this? Second question, I am thinking that I should put in a recirculate line to bypass the filter for those times that I want to shock the pool and keep live algae from entering the filter. Does this make sense? Is this usual for a cartridge filter system? If a good idea, can someone give me the basics on how to plumb this? Last question, if I want these 2 functions, would it be cleaner/simpler to just add a standard multiport valve and not use the backwash and rinse functions (I know this would destroy the filter). The inlet and outlets are the same as a DE filter so I could potentially use a DE multiport. Or, would adding the this valve add unwanted backpressure that would not help with system efficiency? Appreciate any advice you can give me.

  2. Back To Top    #2
    Mod Squad Bama Rambler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    SouthWest Alabama
    Posts
    22,348

    Re: Installing a cartride filter - need help with plumbing

    Welcome to TFP.

    I would plumb the waste line with a 3-way valve. That way it's only one valve to operate to pump to waste. I wouldn't think a bypass would be needed enough to warrant putting it in.

    If you maintain your pool following the instructions found here you'll never have algae so you'll never need to bypass the filter.
    Dave J. TFP Moderator
    24' x 52" Round AGP. 2hp/¼hp SPL Power-Flo 2-speed pump. 200sqft Waterway Cartridge Filter. 45MHP2(3GPD) Stenner Peristaltic Pump
    Pool School ----- Pool Math ----- TF-Test Kit

  3. Back To Top    #3

    Re: Installing a cartride filter - need help with plumbing

    Thanks Dave. I hear ya but every summer the water is green soup when I open the pool. I would rather shock and recirculate.....then vacuum to waste to avoid running through the filter. Any ideas on the plumbing side would be appreciated. Thx again.

  4. Back To Top    #4
    Mod Squad jblizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    37,389

    Re: Installing a cartride filter - need help with plumbing

    Easiest would be 2 3-way valves and a check valve.
    The first 3-way selecting between pool (recirculate) & filter/waste
    The second 3-way selecting between filter & waste
    The check valve between the filter exit and where you tie the re-circulation back in to the return.

    OR

    The first 3-way selecting between pool (recirculate)/waste & filter
    The second 3-way selecting between pool return & waste
    The check valve between the filter exit and where you tie the re-circulation back in to the return.

    Second option would allow you to only move 1 valve to switch between recirculate and waste if you were clearing a pool.
    Jason, TFP Moderator
    18k IG pebblesheen pool, Hayward ProLogic P4 w/ T-15 SWG, Pentair 1HP 2-speed Superflo, Hayward 6020 DE filter
    500 sqft Heliocol solar panels, ThePoolCleaner, TF-100 test kit w/ SpeedStir
    Pool School + Test Kit + PoolMath = A TROUBLE FREE POOL
    If you found TFP helpful and we saved you money ... Become a TFP Supporter!

  5. Back To Top    #5

    Re: Installing a cartride filter - need help with plumbing

    Thanks Jason. What about going with a DE multiport and only using the filter, recirculate and waste functions? Might be a cleaner set-up?

  6. Back To Top    #6
    Mod Squad jblizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    37,389

    Re: Installing a cartride filter - need help with plumbing

    That could be cleaner, but I am not sure if you can buy the fittings to connect the multi-port unions to. I thought they were a "special" size.
    Jason, TFP Moderator
    18k IG pebblesheen pool, Hayward ProLogic P4 w/ T-15 SWG, Pentair 1HP 2-speed Superflo, Hayward 6020 DE filter
    500 sqft Heliocol solar panels, ThePoolCleaner, TF-100 test kit w/ SpeedStir
    Pool School + Test Kit + PoolMath = A TROUBLE FREE POOL
    If you found TFP helpful and we saved you money ... Become a TFP Supporter!

  7. Back To Top    #7
    Mod Squad Bama Rambler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    SouthWest Alabama
    Posts
    22,348

    Re: Installing a cartride filter - need help with plumbing

    I'd go with the (two) 3-way setup. That way you don't have someone in the future accidentally putting it in backwash and ruining a cartridge.
    Dave J. TFP Moderator
    24' x 52" Round AGP. 2hp/¼hp SPL Power-Flo 2-speed pump. 200sqft Waterway Cartridge Filter. 45MHP2(3GPD) Stenner Peristaltic Pump
    Pool School ----- Pool Math ----- TF-Test Kit

  8. Back To Top    #8

    Re: Installing a cartride filter - need help with plumbing

    Been thinking about this and going to use the multiport and somehow block off the notch for the backwash function......to prevent someone from accidently using it. Thanks for everyones help.

  9. Back To Top    #9
    Mod Squad jblizzle's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    37,389

    Re: Installing a cartride filter - need help with plumbing

    Quote Originally Posted by ram0115
    Been thinking about this and going to use the multiport and somehow block off the notch for the backwash function......to prevent someone from accidently using it. Thanks for everyones help.
    I am not sure that is possible. The problem is you do not want to let the water enter the insides of the cartridge. That diverter is inside the valve. I am not sure how you could prevent someone from rotating that valve to that orientation.

    I suppose one option would be to fill in the grove for backwash. This would prevent the handle for seating properly and may reduce the amount of water trying to flow into the cartridge ... but no guarantee that is enough.
    Jason, TFP Moderator
    18k IG pebblesheen pool, Hayward ProLogic P4 w/ T-15 SWG, Pentair 1HP 2-speed Superflo, Hayward 6020 DE filter
    500 sqft Heliocol solar panels, ThePoolCleaner, TF-100 test kit w/ SpeedStir
    Pool School + Test Kit + PoolMath = A TROUBLE FREE POOL
    If you found TFP helpful and we saved you money ... Become a TFP Supporter!

  10. Back To Top    #10

    Re: Installing a cartride filter - need help with plumbing

    Appreciate the feedback and am with ya. Aim would be able to block it from getting over the setting. Will get back if I figure it out as an FYI. Thx again.

  11. Back To Top    #11

    Re: Installing a cartride filter - need help with plumbing

    Why not use a 3-way valve for vaccuuming to waste and just pull the cartridges out when you want to "recirculate" ?
    30K plaster pool, 1HP whisperflow pump, cartridge filter, compupool CPSC48 SWG

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •