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    Please help me troubleshoot spa issue

    I'm having trouble with my spa that I need corrected. It's a 600 gallon spa and I'm using the Taylor K-2006C testing kit. My test results came after we changed the filters, drained, filled, and balanced the spa TWICE (heavy weekend usage with no chlorine in spa)! First attempt of balancing spa we got weird readings that we weren't use to same went with the second attempt.


    Here are my results:

    Chlorine (Free, Combined) Test

    Test unit calls for 25 mL of sample water with 2 dippers of R-0870 until sample turns pink. If pink color disappears, add R-0870 until sample water turns pink.

    *Followed instructions and pink color disappeared so added 2 more dippers of R-0870 until sample turned pink.

    Test unit calls to add R-0871 reagent drops until pink sample water turns clear then multiplying drops by .2 ppm to find out free chlorine levels.

    *Followed instructions and ended up having to add 100 drops of reagent. 10 ppm free chlorine.


    pH Test

    Test unit calls for 44 mL of sample water with 5 drops of R-0004 then to invert to mix

    *Followed instructions and sample water turned purple. I have no idea what that means!?!


    Total Akalinity Test

    Test unit calls for 25 mL of sample water with 2 drops of R-0007, 5 drops of R-0008 until water turns green, then add R-0009 until sample water turns from green to red. Multiply drops of R-0009 by 10 to find out total alkalinity.

    *Followed instructions and sample water turned a light hint of green. Added R-0009 to see if I could get a color change. After 4 drops it changed from a light hint of green to a light hint of red. I'm use to seeing an obvious green color change but not here.


    Calcium Hardness Test

    Test unit calls for 25 mL of sample water with 20 drops of R-0010, 5 drops of R-001L until water turn red if calcium is present, then add R-0012 until sample water turns from red to blue. Multiply drops of R-0012 by 10 to find out calcium hardness.

    *Followed instructions and sample water turned a faint pink/purple color. Added R-0012 to see if color would change and after 10 drops it did.



    Anyone have this happen to them like this after draining and filling your spa? Please help this has been bugging me for the past three days. By the way our pool has no issue what-so-ever and when we do our testings with our test kits the colors turn an obvious color.
    18'x36' 30,000 gal IGP, Sand Filter, Intellichlor IC40 SWG, Main and Booster pumps with Polaris 360.

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    Re: Please help me troubleshoot spa issue

    It is late and I am not thinking to clearly but I have a theory.

    I am theorizing that your FC is higher than 10 ppm and you may have to add even more R-0870 to get a valid reading. If you have an OTO chlorine test (the one that gives shades of yellow for total chlorine) could you use it and tell us what the color is?

    From the extended test kit directions on OTO chlorine testing:
    You can use this test to get a vague idea of extremely high TC levels. If the sample turns a particularly vivid yellow the TC level is between 5 and 15, light orange is between 10 and 20, dark orange is between 15 and 30, and brown is 30 or higher.
    If your's is dark orange to brown then your FC is pretty high and you do probably need to add more of the R-0870.

    If the FC is high then this could also explain your strange ph result. First, when FC is over 10 ppm the ph test is not valid. In addition, my understanding is that at high FC levels starting somewhere between 18 and 23 ppm for the Taylor chemistry the phenol-red indicator dye used for the ph test gets transformed into chlorphenol-red indicator which measures PH between 5.2 and 6.6. Some people have reported a purple color when this occurs.

    Again, I am tired, but I think this could be the problem you are seeing.

    How much chlorine were you adding?
    TFP Moderator who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Re: Please help me troubleshoot spa issue

    Unfortunately we don't have an OTO chlorine test kit. We have tried reducing free chlorine levels by draining spa but no success also we tried using Dichlor and also nothing. Any suggestions? And why do I get a purple color when testing for pH after we have done nothing to balance spa water after draining and filling?
    18'x36' 30,000 gal IGP, Sand Filter, Intellichlor IC40 SWG, Main and Booster pumps with Polaris 360.

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    Re: Please help me troubleshoot spa issue

    Quote Originally Posted by ak.operator

    Chlorine (Free, Combined) Test

    Test unit calls for 25 mL of sample water with 2 dippers of R-0870 until sample turns pink. If pink color disappears, add R-0870 until sample water turns pink.

    *Followed instructions and pink color disappeared so added 2 more dippers of R-0870 until sample turned pink.

    Test unit calls to add R-0871 reagent drops until pink sample water turns clear then multiplying drops by .2 ppm to find out free chlorine levels.

    *Followed instructions and ended up having to add 100 drops of reagent. 10 ppm free chlorine.
    100 X .2 = 20 ppm

    There's no need to use a 25 ml sample. You can use a 10 ml sample and multiply each drop by .5
    Your reagents will last longer that way.
    Bill
    18'X4' 7600 Gal AG
    3/4 HP Pentair Pump
    Hayward S166T 100 lb sand filter

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    Re: Please help me troubleshoot spa issue

    Quote Originally Posted by yeggim
    100 X .2 = 20 ppm
    Good catch yeggim!
    TFP Moderator who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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