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    Has anyone used the solar pro xf, a flat panel solar heater?

    I can find no reviews of this product. But it sounds promising. However they are the same people that had the dome tubing smaller solar heater that when it first came out didn't get very good reviews.

    Here is a link to the product. Sure would be nice to replace the 4'x20' Fafco panel which now has leaks and is a pain to try to repair!

    http://www.game-group.com/products/solarpro-xf/
    [center:3jp7r7gm]15'x25'x4' Oval Muskin AGP, blue vinyl liner, sunk 2 feet in ground with redwood decking. Approx 10k gallons. Hayward Perflex filter D.E. and Hayward 1.5 hp pump. One return line. Wedding cake stairs. (whew, hopefully that describes the pool!)[/center:3jp7r7gm]

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    Re: Has anyone used the solar pro xf, a flat panel solar hea

    Solar heating is all about surface area. You generally want 50-100% of your pool surface area in solar area ... although the ones encased in glass are a little more effective I think.

    Those panels are 10 sqft each ... it would take a LOT of them to be very effective.

    My regular panel solar system is going to be 500 sqft.
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    Re: Has anyone used the solar pro xf, a flat panel solar hea

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle
    Solar heating is all about surface area. You generally want 50-100% of your pool surface area in solar area ... although the ones encased in glass are a little more effective I think.

    Those panels are 10 sqft each ... it would take a LOT of them to be very effective.

    My regular panel solar system is going to be 500 sqft.
    Yes, that's what I suspect, Jason. I can't see how something that small can be effective on a 15'x25' oval pool. I did call the manufacturer and they insist it works... lol. Well, what else are they GOING to say, right? If they had a money-back guarantee I'd order one and see if it works. Guess I'll just have to try to repair the leaks in my Fafco.
    [center:3jp7r7gm]15'x25'x4' Oval Muskin AGP, blue vinyl liner, sunk 2 feet in ground with redwood decking. Approx 10k gallons. Hayward Perflex filter D.E. and Hayward 1.5 hp pump. One return line. Wedding cake stairs. (whew, hopefully that describes the pool!)[/center:3jp7r7gm]

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    Re: Has anyone used the solar pro xf, a flat panel solar hea

    The enclosed heaters are more efficient as the box gets hot throughout so even the back of the tubes is heated (did you see all the heat transfer fins on the pipes?) ... so that could help to add more heat to the water as it passes through. But that seems awfully small to me.

    Did you read the manual? It says to know your pool volume/etc at the beginning, but then never uses that info for anything ... I was kind of expecting a table recommending the # of panels, but nope.

    In the troubleshooting under "Does not appear to be heating": Solutions:
    "Is it sunny?" ... duh
    "put your pool cover on at night" ... hmm wonder if THAT would have more to do with why the water is warmer
    "additional heaters may be necessary" ... BINGO there it is "I am sorry that it is not heating as you expected, sir. Maybe you should try to buy a few more!!!"
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    Re: Has anyone used the solar pro xf, a flat panel solar hea

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle
    The enclosed heaters are more efficient as the box gets hot throughout so even the back of the tubes is heated (did you see all the heat transfer fins on the pipes?) ... so that could help to add more heat to the water as it passes through. But that seems awfully small to me.

    Did you read the manual? It says to know your pool volume/etc at the beginning, but then never uses that info for anything ... I was kind of expecting a table recommending the # of panels, but nope.

    In the troubleshooting under "Does not appear to be heating": Solutions:
    "Is it sunny?" ... duh
    "put your pool cover on at night" ... hmm wonder if THAT would have more to do with why the water is warmer
    "additional heaters may be necessary" ... BINGO there it is "I am sorry that it is not heating as you expected, sir. Maybe you should try to buy a few more!!!"
    Your post really made me laugh. Well, have found the two holes in the Fafco 4'x20' panel. I thought there were more, so was happy to find only two. I am using spray on rubberized undercoating. I have the repair kit with those rubber tubes but even when I slipped them inside the part of the tube I tried to carefully cut away with an xacto knife, they didn't seem to be in there very solidly. Like they might pop out. Did I read on this board that some woman actually used a glue gun to seal the leaks in her panel? I wonder if that worked/held up???
    [center:3jp7r7gm]15'x25'x4' Oval Muskin AGP, blue vinyl liner, sunk 2 feet in ground with redwood decking. Approx 10k gallons. Hayward Perflex filter D.E. and Hayward 1.5 hp pump. One return line. Wedding cake stairs. (whew, hopefully that describes the pool!)[/center:3jp7r7gm]

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    Re: Has anyone used the solar pro xf, a flat panel solar hea

    Ever see the commercial for that spray that seals a screen door on the bottom of a row boat? Wonder if that would work????

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