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    Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pressure?

    Hi to all,

    I have a Tagelus TA60 with clearPro since 2 years and alaways had a hard time besause of high pressure (25 psi -27 psi after 5-10 minutes backwash and 45 sec. rinse).

    When running in recirculate mode, pressure is around 12 psi.

    Is it normal a 15 psi difference between recirculate and filter for this type of filter?

    If I fill with gravel + sand should it reduce pressure?

    Even new it was running at minimum 24 psi.

    Please help me because of high pressure I need to backwash everyday because heather stop to work with the flow error message.

    Here is my equipment:
    Superflo 1.5 HP
    Tagelus TA60 with clearPro
    Summit SUM 3 heat pump.

    Thanks.

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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    25 psi seems high but I have no experience with the Clear-pro filters.

    12 psi is high in recirc mode. Can you tell us more about you pool and equipment? How far it is from pool to pad, what size piping you have, etc.?
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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    Hi,

    My piping is 1 inch and half, distance from pump to skimmer / drain is around 35 feet.

    I posted a picture of the setup let me know if you need more info.

    Thanks.

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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    I'm not seeing where you posted the pic.
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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    That pressure seems high to me even in recirculate (bypassing the filter). I wonder if you have a restriction on your return side.

    The clear-pro system exchanges the slotted laterals in favor of laterals that are made of porous material which will filter down closer to DE filters.

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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    Sorry about that cant seem to be able to upload.

    https://picasaweb.google.com/1041099295 ... directlink

    Thanks.

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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    I seem to remember seeing that setup before. Or one just like it?

    Can you bypass the heater? If so what does the pressures read then?
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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    Quote Originally Posted by cadillac
    That pressure seems high to me even in recirculate (bypassing the filter). I wonder if you have a restriction on your return side.

    The clear-pro system exchanges the slotted laterals in favor of laterals that are made of porous material which will filter down closer to DE filters.
    When in recirculate or filter, water seem to go back to the pool without restriction (don`t have any problem to vacum either), I have a jet in the stairs and I keep it always open.

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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama Rambler
    I seem to remember seeing that setup before. Or one just like it?

    Can you bypass the heater? If so what does the pressures read then?
    The heater was bypass when doing the test.

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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    Another comment:

    My pump seems to be working hard because of the high pressure, because when in recirculate it sounds to run smoother.

    Thanks!

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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama Rambler
    I seem to remember seeing that setup before. Or one just like it?

    need-to-always-backwash-t34431.html


    Can you bypass the heater? If so what does the pressures read then?

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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    It sounds like a restriction in the return plumbing somewhere [s:2lf8g0ad]especially since it wasn't that way last year[/s:2lf8g0ad]. Oops, I see it was that way last year.

    You said it was algae last year when you had a problem. Do you suspect it could be again?
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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    I though this all sounded familiar.

    A normal sand filter will let dead/alive algae right through, but a clearpro will catch it all.

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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama Rambler
    It sounds like a restriction in the return plumbing somewhere [s:2a2pm3po]especially since it wasn't that way last year[/s:2a2pm3po]. Oops, I see it was that way last year.

    You said it was algae last year when you had a problem. Do you suspect it could be again?
    I did shock, got water checked, its all balanced...

    Since I have this pool I need to backwash every 2 days other wise FLO error message on filter.

    Could I try to run filter without any sand....would pressure be lower?

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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    You don't want to run it without sand.

    Have you broken the filter down and looked closely at the laterals?
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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    When you shocked, did you follow the method here?
    pool-school/shocking_your_pool

    Bama,
    On your pool, what is the filter pressure on recirculate normally? You have a very similar system.

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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama Rambler
    You don't want to run it without sand.

    Have you broken the filter down and looked closely at the laterals?
    twice already, should I do it again tonight, maybe change sand at the same time?

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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    Quote Originally Posted by cadillac
    When you shocked, did you follow the method here?
    pool-school/shocking_your_pool

    Yes I did.......

    Bama,
    On your pool, what is the filter pressure on recirculate normally? You have a very similar system.

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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    My normal filter pressure runs about 11 psi and about 5 on recirc. I'll check it this evening when I get home. I'm going swimming!
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    Re: Pentair "Clear-pro Technology", Sand Filter, Normal Pres

    Talk to yet another tech a Pentair, he says the 13 psi on recirculate is quite high, it should be more like 5.

    He says to check all the ball valve, maybe they don't open completly. => will do tonight.

    He says to make sure using #20 sand => I will change it tonight.

    Clean laterals using soap and water. => will do tonight.

    I will post after!

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