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    First time AGP owner - need help getting up and running

    Hello to all, I have been reading this board since we decided to jump into the world of pool ownership . I have read Pool School and toyed with the pool calculator. I have also read tons of various posts (very informative board) on all areas from leveling, decks, chemistry, CYA, etc. This is our first ever AGP and we are trying to get it going right so we can start enjoying the water. Here is a rundown of what we have done so far:

    1. Set up pool on Saturday morning (5/19) and began filling with water around 10:30 am, the pool was filled by 4:30 a.m. the next day.

    2. Let pool sit pool until Monday morning when the electrician installed the dedicated 20A GFCI outlet near the pool location.

    3. Backwashed filter and then turned it on (5/21 9:30 a.m.)

    4. Added ~ 180lbs of salt, stirred it up and left pump running for 24 hrs.

    5. This morning (8:00 a.m.) I did a salt test (aqua chem) and it read ~ 2660 ppm. I wanted to get into the range suggested by TFP, so I added another 20 lbs of salt and turned on the SWG for 3hrs per the Intex manual

    6. This afternoon (2:30 p.m) I added 1.7 lbs of cyanuric acid (amount recommended in Intex manual) to a old sock and placed it in the skimmer.

    7. Ran another salt test around 6:30 this evening and got the same reading as earlier ~2660 ppm.

    8. Used aqua chem 6-way test strip and got the following results:

    Total Hardness - 250 (CH = 2/3 x TH = 167)

    Total Chloride - 0

    FC - 0

    Bromine - 0

    pH - 8.4

    TA - 120

    CYA - 0

    Questions

    I read that it takes CYA a while to establish, but I am confused with the FC number. Do I need to run the SWG for a longer time, should I run it through another cycle tonight?

    Is there anything I should add in the meanwhile to get the FC up? What should I do about the pH being high (muratic acid)?

    Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

    Wil
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    Re: First time AGP owner - need help getting up and running

    pH needs to come down. Now.

    Just use bleach to get some FC registering until the CYA is all dssolved. What FC the SWG produces is probably being broken down by UV sunlight faster than it can be made.
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    Re: First time AGP owner - need help getting up and running

    Thanks for responding, how much bleach should I add? I entered my info in the pool calculator (6981 GAL and FC= 0) and it tells me add 87 ounces of 6% bleach...is this correct?
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    Re: First time AGP owner - need help getting up and running

    That's what I get.
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    Re: First time AGP owner - need help getting up and running

    Thanks, I added 87 ounces of bleach this morning and will retest later this evening.
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    Re: First time AGP owner - need help getting up and running

    Are you testing with just strips, or do you have a good test kit? By good I mean Taylor K2006 or the TFT...
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    Re: First time AGP owner - need help getting up and running

    For now I am using the strips from a "not so good" kind. I have not ordered the good one yet, looking at the TF100.
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    Re: First time AGP owner - need help getting up and running

    That's perfect. I think you'll find it's a lot easier to manage your chemistry when you have that kit.
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    Re: First time AGP owner - need help getting up and running

    I did the following today and got the results below (shown in comparison to yesterdays results).

    Added 87 ounces of bleach this morning.

    Ran the SWG for 3 hours.

    Squeezed sock with stabilzer near return until it was all dissolved.

    Total Hardness - 250 (CH = 2/3 x TH = 167) ---no change

    Total Chloride - 0 ---no change

    FC - 0 --- no change

    Bromine - 0 --- increased to 2

    pH - 8.4 --- decreased to 7.8

    TA - 120 --- increased to 180

    CYA - 0 --- increased to 50

    Salt - 2660 --- increased to 2860

    I am still not sure why I am not registering any chlorine? any thoughts? do I need to add another round of bleach?
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