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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    The one and only time I ventured into an actual pool store, the lady in front of me bought 350 bucks worth of bacquastuff. I 'bout had a heart attack.

    I think it'd be cheaper to just drain, clean, and refill everyday!

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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    Quote Originally Posted by Kias
    The one and only time I ventured into an actual pool store, the lady in front of me bought 350 bucks worth of bacquastuff. I 'bout had a heart attack.

    I think it'd be cheaper to just drain, clean, and refill everyday!

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    Ya know, I get that the pool stores make money off of chemical sales. I understand that.

    What really PEEVES me off is that when you go in there, clearly knowing what you are talking about, and they bold face lie to you and call you an idiot.

    "Buy chlorine to shock."

    "Ill use bleach."

    "Not the same."

    "Read the ingredients. Its the same."

    "ours has a special additive."

    FUUUUUU!!!
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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    Quote Originally Posted by Kias
    Sometimes I feel like I want to convert to bacquacil, just so I can convert back to chlorine. You guys have all the fun!
    After swapping last year, I right away wanted to swap back. I now wana try to keep a baqua pool clean, using the idea of shocking taught on this site. In theory, if you add enough oxidizer it should get clean. Enough sanitizer and algicide and it should stay clean. With that said.....I don't pay for the chemicals I dump into the Inlaws pool. We used over $600 a year on baqua for dirty water. To date this year, we've used maybe $100. Bleach wins!

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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    "ours has a special additive."

    FUUUUUU!!!
    I just about peed - thats so funny
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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    There are some VERY funny peeps in here!!!!! It makes doing all this work so much easier.

    I LOVE THIS SITE!!!!!!
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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    How's it look this morning?

    I'm having picture withdrawal symptoms. Might have to check myself into rehab soon.
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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    LOL @Kias...

    Seems to be the same in looks, but i'll still post a pic in a bit.

    My numbers are definitely getting better and better. Until today, i've been putting in two of the big bleaches when i get up because it drops so low overnight. But today i thought i'd try just one.

    At 9:30 i put in ONE big 182 oz bleach.

    Checked water just now, one hour later...

    FC 19.5
    CC 1.5!!!!!!!!

    How exciting is that!!!!!!
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    Sweet! Gettin' closer and closer! You'll be swimming in no time!

    My wife came home from work this morning and said she had a car accident patient. Found a bag of meth, and five grand in cash! I said, "Sweet! I'll take it to the bank! That's a nice down payment on a new pool!" I just got punched in the arm... Oh well...

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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    LOL. Yeah too bad we all can't play "find'ers keep'ers" like the good ole days when we were 10.

    I'll retest and post a pic in about an hour.

    I'm either watching the clock, counting drops, or bleaching.

    My life is soooooo exciting.
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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    Oh man... I can't believe nobody has mentioned this, but if you do find dead bodies in your pool, you're going to need a whole lot more bleach!

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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    Yeah. Gosh hadn't thought of that. Well, at least they should smell good.

    Waited two hours and this was my reading...

    FC 10
    CC 1.5

    Sooooooooooooooooo back to 1.5 hours again.

    I'm grillin burgers. Everyone is invited. And it's BYOB (bring your own bleach)

    And the door prize is year's supply of R-0170!!!!!
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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    Oh and i almost forgot...

    Here is the pic a few minutes ago along with the pic from yesterday.

    I think it may be a weeee bit clearer. Don't you think? If not, lie to me LOL.

    yesterday.....




    Today....

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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    It most definitely is clearer! You can see more of the second step!

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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    Thats what i was thinking!!!!!!!

    HOORAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

    *does the bleach dance
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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    Quote Originally Posted by NikiBelle
    I'm grillin burgers. Everyone is invited. And it's BYOB (bring your own bleach)

    And the door prize is year's supply of R-0170!!!!!

    Classic!!! LOL
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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    Color is looking good, now its up to your filter to clear that mess out. Color looks real good. Now, all that dead algae and guk is the root cause of the turbidity.
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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    Quote Originally Posted by TomTinNC
    Color is looking good, now its up to your filter to clear that mess out. Color looks real good. Now, all that dead algae and guk is the root cause of the turbidity.
    So is keeping my shock level up to 17 really doing anything now? I mean i know i have to because the "rules" say so...lol. And also because my CC, at last check, was 1.5, so i have to keep shocking.

    But, is it just up to my filter at this point?

    I haven't checked my levels yet this morning. Put bleach in and am going to wait one hour and check my levels because i knew it would be low.

    Today is day 7 of keeping my shock up to 17.
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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    Quote Originally Posted by NikiBelle
    So is keeping my shock level up to 17 really doing anything now? I mean i know i have to because the "rules" say so...lol. And also because my CC, at last check, was 1.5, so i have to keep shocking.
    You need to maintain shock level beacase you are not done shocking! You still have 1.5 CC!

    But, is it just up to my filter at this point?
    No, it is up to shocking, filtering & brushing. Once everything is confirmed 'dead' it will mostly be up to filtering. Hang in there and keep at it.

    BTW, what is your CYA level?


    I haven't checked my levels yet this morning. Put bleach in and am going to wait one hour and check my levels because i knew it would be low.
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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    Unless I missed something...you are still converting from baqua, right?

    Keep your FC ~15 ppm (17 is fine), the next step will be step 7 in the baqua conversion instructions:

    7. When you lose 1 ppm of chlorine, or less, overnight it is time to clean out your filter and change the media. Once the filter is cleaned up, add enough CYA to reach 30 ppm. Continue to maintain FC at 15 ppm.
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    Re: HELP i'm in a complete mess and don't know which way to

    Quote Originally Posted by linen
    Unless I missed something...you are still converting from baqua, right?

    Keep your FC ~15 ppm (17 is fine), the next step will be step 7 in the baqua conversion instructions:

    7. When you lose 1 ppm of chlorine, or less, overnight it is time to clean out your filter and change the media. Once the filter is cleaned up, add enough CYA to reach 30 ppm. Continue to maintain FC at 15 ppm.
    Right!!!!!!! I am sticking to it, step by step. Was just wondering about all that milk stuff and if it is the filter that gets rid of that or the bleaching.

    I am totally going by the book!!!!

    Andddddddddd, surprise, it's working!!!!

    Oh should i check my CYA level now?
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    Baqua to BBB.....BBB is the only way to go!!!!
    A Cinderella story with a "happy ever after" ending.

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