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    Black Algae On Steps Need Help.

    In a previous post I was asking about black algae removal for my neighbours pool, my neighbour is nearly 80 and just had serious heart surgery which will take at least a year to recover from, therefore I am maintaining their pool. Blakej gave the excellent advice to shock over a number of days until it is gone (5 in this case), at this post

    http://www.troublefreepool.com/black...ol-t42477.html

    I did this and the black algae, some was over 2 years old, has gone from everywhere except on certain parts of certain the steps which are within 1 ft to 3 ft of the surface. I have wire brushed twice a day, used the the Pentair AlgaeGone holder to brush and rub tabs over it. In most places on the steps this worked well but in some places it seems the Algae grows back each night. My guess, and it is a guess, is that the black algae is so deep rooted that it continues to grow back.

    I think and I could be wrong, most probably am wrong, that the level of chlorine near the surface is not as high as deeper in the pool, is my thinking correct or off track, or is it the UV being higher at this level?

    So what should I do? Increase the level of shock chlorine? Decrease the pH to 7.2, I fear doing this as the pool is severly delaminated? Increase the level of shock and CYA? Drain the pool down below the level of the steps and put chlorine soaked rags on the spots overnight or what else? Or let the pool return to a normal chlorine level of 8 and increase the CYA to 75 and continue daily with the pucks?

    Obviously it is getting very expensive in the chlorine area as a jug is over $4.00 from Walmart here in Honolulu. I have used many jugs, nearly $80 worth at present.

    I did add acid to the pool based on poolequations calculations when I added the liquid chlorine.

    The pool is 20,000 gals plaster saltwater pool, about 25 years old, they cannot afford to re-plaster at present, the balance is below:

    FC - 40 to 35 (shock level) (Normally 8 as we have mustard/yellow algae issues in our area)
    pH - 7.6 (obviously cannot check at present FC levels but that is what I started with)
    TA - 80
    CH - 400 (I know too high I will reduce it later)
    CyA - 60 (Will increase to 75 once the shocking is done)
    Salt - 3100
    Borates - 0 (Dogs)
    Temp - 82
    CSI - -0.10 (approximate)

    One other issue exists. I removed a really bad black algae area about 3 ft from the main drain in the deepest part of the pool, about 6 ft deep, and then a day or so latter it seemed to grow back. All the other areas around it that had black algae were gone. I scrubbed it with a wire brush and a tab and it seemed to go away but by the afternoon, it came back. I then put a tab on it overnight and it actually got worse. I am beginning to think this is not black algae but a spalding issue coming from the concrete below. It is hard to see if it is black or dark brown as the trade winds have kicked up and the surface of the pool is always rippling. The roots of the black algae may have grown so far down it actually got into the concrete and the rebar may be spalding. Any opinions on my thought and what might be done?

    My neighbours are very happy at the current results as there was lots of black algae in their pool. I have not discussed the possible spalding issue with them as I do not wish to worry them for no reason. Should we be worried if this is the case, I think yes but I am no expert?
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    Balance: pH 7.7 Cl 7 -8 Alk 70-80 CH 325 CyA 30 in winter - 50 in summer NaCl 1010 TDS 1200

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    Re: Black Algae On Steps Need Help.

    One thing you can try, with some minor risk, is to brush as much as you can and then place a trichlor tablet, or pile of granular trichlor, directly on the black algae for several hours. This runs a risk of leaving a mark on the pool surface, typically changing the color slightly but noticeably, still it almost always works.

    The FC level will be much the same at any depth as long as the pump is running. If the pump has been off for several hours and the sun is shining the FC level will be higher at depth than it is lower down.
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    Re: Black Algae On Steps Need Help.

    JasonLion,

    Thank you for the quick reply.

    I will give the pucks a go. If I do that can I reduce the chlorine level back to the normal maintainence level to save money on all the jugs I keep buying?

    Thank you.
    10,000 gal plaster pool,3/4 hp WhisperFlo pump, Sta-Rite Great White GW9500 pool cleaner, Hayward 300 lb Sand Filter
    Use Magenta Stuff for Iron and Silica control.
    Balance: pH 7.7 Cl 7 -8 Alk 70-80 CH 325 CyA 30 in winter - 50 in summer NaCl 1010 TDS 1200

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    Shock Level for Black Algae

    Which shock level should a person target for black algae, Shock FC or Yel/MstrdShock, utilizing the Chlorine/CYA Chart? I think the latter but I am not sure.

    Thank you.
    10,000 gal plaster pool,3/4 hp WhisperFlo pump, Sta-Rite Great White GW9500 pool cleaner, Hayward 300 lb Sand Filter
    Use Magenta Stuff for Iron and Silica control.
    Balance: pH 7.7 Cl 7 -8 Alk 70-80 CH 325 CyA 30 in winter - 50 in summer NaCl 1010 TDS 1200

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    Re: Shock Level for Black Algae

    It isn't really a question of what shock level you use. Neither regular shock level or mustard algae shock level will kill black algae without other steps, and with appropriate other steps the exact FC level doesn't matter. Frequent brushing to expose progressively deeper layers until you finally get it all is the most repeatable approach, though it gets quite tedious.
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    Re: Black Algae On Steps Need Help.

    I have had success removing black algae by using a power washer (high pressure water) in the pool. I do not drain the pool, I just take the hose into the pool and spray the black spots. You have to be careful that you don't blast the plaster away as well. You can start with the spray nozzle a distance away from the pool surface and move it closer to the wall as needed. Be very careful not to spray yourself or anyone else. Of course you also have to raise the chlorine levels high enough to kill any organic material in the pool (ie. The black algae)

    Hope this helps!

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    Re: Black Algae On Steps Need Help.

    I've had good luck with pressure washer as well, but like mumstheword said, be careful, it can damage the plaster and remove the grout between tiles.
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