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    Bubbles on popup heads

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    Skimmer basket cllean
    Basket near pump clean and no bubbles
    Cartridge filter 30psi
    Paramount pump ZERO PSI
    Water comes out from one pop heads only
    Cartridge filter cleaned
    All valve lubed properly
    Paramount cleaner opened and cleaned

    Still small amount of bubbles come out from pop up head

    When i cleaned the cell there are two rubber valve , I lubed them too.
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    If bubbles are coming out the popups, you do have an air leak on the suction side of your system. If you can't see bubbles in the pump basket, it's not big enough to worry about.

    It sounds like the pressure gauge on the cleaner valve is broken, since you obviously have water moving through it. Am I understanding you correctly that the popup zones aren't rotating as they should? If so, take the top off that valve and see whether the gear mechanism is busted.
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    Pump basket is good. No leaks on suction side.
    Installed new guage on cleaner valve
    how do I check "gear mechanism is busted" , I opened it & it does rotate freely !! Any other tests ?
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    Any expert advise
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    It should spin freely by hand, and whatever drives the mechanism (fins?) Should be intact. If you post a picture of the innards it would help.
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    Sure will post pictures tonight.
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    bubbles from the head
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    Any updates !! on my pictures
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    Hold yer horses, we all gotta sleep sometime

    That's a different kind of valve than I have, but I don't see anything obviously broken in it. There is some rust on the center shaft, but as long as it still turns smoothly I don't think it matters. The incoming water should spin those fins, which in turn will move all the gears (slowly) around to change which zone is on. You never clarified before; are the zones rotating or not?

    The bubbles do mean you have a suction side leak; there's no way around that fact. If you open the air bleed on your filter after it's been running a while, what happens?
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    1. Yes zones are NOT rotating , Its catch 22. My PSI on paramount is ZERO. So dont know if the valve is bad or no pressure.
    2. After I open my air valve on cartridge filter I get air for 3-4 seconds & then get water in full spees.
    Just FYI my PSI on filter is 30.
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    30 is kinda high; how big is your pump? Filter cart clean?

    OK, still zero pressure and you just replaced the gauge (I somehow missed that before) sounds like you aren't getting any water at all to the cleaner valve. From your filter, does all the return water go through the popups, or do you have wall returns/water features/etc that the water can go to? Can you post a picture of the equipment pad? It sounds like there's a valve that's directing the water elsewhere.
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    Note : My both gauge meters are 0-100 PSI.
    1. My pump is
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    230V, 2 HP, 60Hz, 5 kW
    2. cartridge is clean
    3. From the filter water can either goto fountain or Cell>then valve , My fountains are closed so all is going through cell > valve possibly.
    There are wall returns but when I think they are connected my cell return because when I start the pump water comes out from wall return initially.

    I will send the set up picture today.
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    OK, with a 2hp pump 30 psi isn't surprising. I'd suggest eventually getting a smaller pump and/or bigger filter, but it's fine for now.

    Looking forward to the picture
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    You were right there is a leak on suction side. I primed the pump & there were no bubble in basket near pump.

    But after 24 hours I can see 1 inch diameter bubble.

    I carefully check on my Jandy valve below two screns there is a tiny crack on jandy valve base (under the screw).

    Is there a way I can seal it ?

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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    If the cracks are in the body of the valve you'll ahve to replace it. You could temporarily try some A+B putty.
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    what is A+B putty
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    It's an epoxy cement that works underwater. A lot of pool people like it. It works well for pool related repairs of all kinds.
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    Ok , let me get that today. Hopefully it will work on PVC Janty valve
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    Re: Bubbles on popup heads

    Will the epoxy work on this , picture attached.
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