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    I need to decide on speakers today

    Get some Yamaha NS-AW350W for $85 or Jamo I/O 3A2 for $180 at dealer cost.

    The Jamos are only 5.5 woofers and the Yamahas are 6.5 88 vs 87db and 40/80 and 40/130 power output.

    I don't need audiophile sound as i am playing iTunes and Pandora by the pool at now to mid levels. But I want CLEAR and depth in the sound.
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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    We installed 4 of these http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-NS-AW39...846605&sr=8-11 Yamahas last weekend. The sound quality is awesome for the money. I'm very pleased with them. Now I'm glad I didn't spend the extra money on any of the others we considered. I actually purchased ours from tigerdirect.com, but their site seems to be down this morning. It could be my crazy computer though.
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    I need to decide on speakers today

    I have Yamaha speakers mounted outside and they sound great, if you correctly match the amp to the speakers mine freak'n rock and sound great. I don't remember the exact model offhand it in general Yamaha makes nice speakers.
    The other speaker you listed I have never owned.
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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlandreef
    I have Yamaha speakers mounted outside and they sound great, if you correctly match the amp to the speakers mine freak'n rock and sound great. I don't remember the exact model offhand it in general Yamaha makes nice speakers.
    The other speaker you listed I have never owned.
    Pic of the jamo

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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    I am using some insignia rock speakers from BB. They do a really good job for around 100, and can blend in.
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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    I am a fan of Yamaha...but never used/heard Jamo speakers..

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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane Gio
    Get some Yamaha NS-AW350W for $85 or Jamo I/O 3A2 for $180 at dealer cost.

    The Jamos are only 5.5 woofers and the Yamahas are 6.5 88 vs 87db and 40/80 and 40/130 power output.

    I don't need audiophile sound as i am playing iTunes and Pandora by the pool at now to mid levels. But I want CLEAR and depth in the sound.
    Not trying to hijack this, but has anyone used wireless speakers that don't suck?

    I am also don't need audiophile sound outside. I was thinking of the Rocketfish wireless speakers but I really don't know.

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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    definitive technology aw5500 or aw6500 super great clear as can be wide sound stage and awsome bass.......
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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by jeepercrna
    definitive technology aw5500 or aw6500 super great clear as can be wide sound stage and awsome bass.......
    Too much for my budget.
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    I need to decide on speakers today

    My installer is recommending 4 speakers for my deck area.
    It's 45x28 with the pool. 110w rms amp pushing the yamaha speakers.

    What do you guys think?
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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    This is the set up I went with. I don't have them hooked up yet but I will by the end of the week. I don't remember the total cost but I bought all of it wholesale from a friend for around $1400.

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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    For those not familiar with this site, I wanted to share - http://www.outdoorspeakerdepot.com/

    Excellent source for affordable speakers. They have all kinds of speakers. I am using the AP640 speakers for my pool area and they are great. I do A/V Home Theater installs on the side and have used their speakers on a number of jobs with great results. You simply can't beat the quality for the price point. Fast shipping too...
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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    I just ordered some of those Yamahas and am wondering what you guys think would be the best receiver to get. I am not looking to blow out the neighborhood, just want quality sound for our 40x30 pool deck. Ideally, under $200 and with inputs for laptop / Droid phone / iPod. Any suggestions?
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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    Pretty much any receiver with over 50W/ch will do. Since dB are on an exponential scale, most of the sound you will get out of those speakers will be within the first 10W. After that, the difference in output is relatively minor. For each doubling of power, you get a 3 db increase in sound output. I've seemed to collect a bunch of rather nice Dolby Pro surround receivers that are great for this application. These were replaced with newer 7.1 channel receivers for home theater use. I actually think most older receivers have better sound because they only had to pack 2 channels into an IC, whereas now they have to pack 7+ channels into their ICs to be able to supply all that other functionality for a reasonable cost. If you or friends don't have an old stereo or Dolby Pro surround receiver, you can probably find one at a garage sale or on eBay for cheap. There are still new ones too. Obviously, you don't need a 7.1 channel receiver for this application. Integrated amps, though typically more expensive, are also an option. Also Outdoor Speaker Depot sells small integrated amps for a decent price that will work well and have plenty of inputs.

    BTW, on older receivers or integrated amps, you will typically have tape, CD, aux and phono inputs. The former three can all serve as independent sources via connection of your iPod, Squeezebox, computer soundcard, etc. via RCA cables. However, the phono input should be avoided, as it runs at a different impedance and has an RIAA equalization filter that will significantly alter the sound of one of these newer types of inputs. The rest should be fine for your use.
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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    For future readers, I picked up a pair of these and am quite impressed:
    http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-KHO-7-Out ... 334&sr=1-1
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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by demarco

    Not trying to hijack this, but has anyone used wireless speakers that don't suck?

    I am also don't need audiophile sound outside. I was thinking of the Rocketfish wireless speakers but I really don't know.
    I use a Logitech Squeezebox Radio, which is a network music system, so not exactly the same as wireless speakers. I have been a Squeezebox user for a long time and was thrilled when they came out with a portable player. I have been through a multitude of trials and tribulations with pool-side audio (including wireless speakers that sucked) and this is my favorite solution by far. I unplug the Radio from my bathroom and carry it with me out to the pool, where I control it by remote or with my iPod touch. I have the battery back so it's just one thing to carry. I keep it sync'd with the other Squeezebox players in my house so when I go outside I can pick up listening to whatever I was playing inside. The cost of one Radio is in range of most wireless speakers, but it is a whole lot more flexible. I wrote a little more about the Squeezebox system in this thread.
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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    Quote Originally Posted by NullQwerty
    For future readers, I picked up a pair of these and am quite impressed:
    http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-KHO-7-Out ... 334&sr=1-1
    Best Buy had these up through yesterday for $199. I almost pulled the trigger, but read on Crutchfield that they don't recommend mounting to cedar siding. So I was contemplating other options, like mounting in a couple oak trees on the other side of the pool, or going with rock speakers. Still undecided.
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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    I picked up the same Klipsch (KHO-7) last year for the deck. Extremely pleased with the results.. actually received a number of compliments on them.
    Got them at BB on sale as well. Follow the directions in choosing the mounting location. You'll be surprised at how much bass a small(ish) outdoor speaker can have.

    Best of luck in your search.

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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    I have (2) pair of Polk Atrium 45's and (1) pair of Yamaha NS-AW150's. Total investment for all 6 speakers = $250. I really like the polks ($99 pair), but the Yamaha's are not as good, but got them on clearance for ($49 pair). All run with white lamp cord for speaker wire and works great for a full backyard music environment (XM, Pandora, etc).

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    Re: I need to decide on speakers today

    I've got these BOSE outdoor speakers. I've got 4 surrounding the pool (2 viewable here). I really like them. When you crank them up, it certainly surrounds the pool. They were ideal for me since I wanted to bury them into the deck.
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