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    In a Pool Fight

    Started about 6 days ago... Open pool back up. Green. fixed ph.. Had no cya added that. Started adding bleach to keep pool above 20 at all times.. last nights drop was 4 from 23 to 19. Pool is cloudy. Brush pool everyday. Is there hope in sight are am i doing something wrong I done see..
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    Is there hope in sight are am i doing something wrong I done see..
    Ahhhh! Patience, Grasshopper, Patience.

    This is the reason we really emphasize the PROCESS part of the shock process. It can take 24 hours (for the lucky few) and sometimes more than a week (usually in pools with poor filtration capacity)

    Brush your pool as often as practicable, backwash/clean your filter as necessary and, above all, keep your FC at that shock level as you have been doing. A loss of 4ppm FC means you are still killing organics in your water and the cloudiness comes from those already killed.

    You might review the Shock Process in Pool School to make sure you are covering all the bases.

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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    My numbers are

    fc 19
    PH some where above 8.2
    TA 120
    CH 100
    CYA 30
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    If you opened to no cya and know you had some when you closed, you may have experiencd the mystery of cya eating bacteria over the winter. The by-product of this is ammonia and it takes a lot of bleach to get rid of ammonia, but once it is gone the rest of the shock process should go smoothly.
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    PH some where above 8.2
    Disregard that. The pH test is not valid in the presence of high FC. Assume your pH is the same as when you fixed it.
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    still dealing with it..

    Kinda coming along..

    numbers tonight

    Fc 10
    CC .05
    TC 10.5
    PH 7.5
    CYA 20 but still going up..


    Pool still cloudy.. but can see the brush at the bottom now some what..
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    Numbers are holding steading But pool is still cloudy as ****,, There has to be something i can do to clear it up/... I mean going on 2 weeks is a long time..
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    Did you Add DE to a Sand Filter to improve filtration and run your pump 24/7?
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by chem geek
    Did you Add DE to a Sand Filter to improve filtration and run your pump 24/7?

    have not added DE an pump has been running for a week..are so

    Numbers this am. FC holding fine

    fc 4
    cc.5
    tc 4.5
    ph 7.5
    ta 130
    ch 90
    cya 30
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by chem geek
    Did you Add DE to a Sand Filter to improve filtration and run your pump 24/7?

    will get some DE today an try that.. Thanks..
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    Almost 3 weeks .. Don't have a clue what happen to take so long.. But vacuum an vacuum an more vacuum an can finally can see the bottom of the pool.. Stilll have a way to go but the rules are working.. Thanks for all the help I get here..
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    This whole pool deal this year sucks.. Pool still is a bit cloudy can see the bottom but when in it.. But its still cloudy.. i hate this pool so bad..

    Numbers

    fc 4
    cc .5
    tc 4.5
    ph 7.6
    ta 120
    ch100
    cya 30

    how do it get it to clear up.. .
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    Shouldn't you be keeping your fc at shock level until its done?
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    It sounds like you have not completed the shock process. The shock process is not complete until all of these criteria have been met.
    Shocking:

    Measure the FC level
    Add enough chlorine to bring FC up to shock level (or a little higher)
    Repeat steps 1 and 2 as frequently as practical, but not more than once per hour, and not less than twice a day, until:
    CC is 0.5 or lower;
    An overnight FC loss test shows a loss of 1.0 ppm or less;
    And the water is clear.

    Brush the entire pool once a day
    Backwash or clean the filter as needed


    Until all the criteria have been met you need to keep the pool at shock level. From your last few posts it doesn't look like you have been at shock level.

    You also may want to pull out your ladder or steps and scrub them down with a bleach/water solution. Algae can hide in nooks and crannies where water does not circulate well and prolong the shock process.
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Lershac
    Shouldn't you be keeping your fc at shock level until its done?
    +1 ... that is exactly what I was thinking.
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    Are there leaves or other debris on the pool bottom? Do you still lose FC overnight?
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Lershac
    Shouldn't you be keeping your fc at shock level until its done?

    I done that weeks ago... the drop teat I do every day its less then 1...
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Ohm_Boy
    Are there leaves or other debris on the pool bottom? Do you still lose FC overnight?

    no leaves.. nada... just cloudy water.. Lose less the one over night.. like .5 most days.. I have been checking it every day for a long time now..
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    Quote Originally Posted by zea3
    It sounds like you have not completed the shock process. The shock process is not complete until all of these criteria have been met.
    Shocking:

    Measure the FC level
    Add enough chlorine to bring FC up to shock level (or a little higher)
    Repeat steps 1 and 2 as frequently as practical, but not more than once per hour, and not less than twice a day, until:
    CC is 0.5 or lower;
    An overnight FC loss test shows a loss of 1.0 ppm or less;
    And the water is clear.

    Brush the entire pool once a day
    Backwash or clean the filter as needed


    Until all the criteria have been met you need to keep the pool at shock level. From your last few posts it doesn't look like you have been at shock level.

    You also may want to pull out your ladder or steps and scrub them down with a bleach/water solution. Algae can hide in nooks and crannies where water does not circulate well and prolong the shock process.

    all of this has been done.. Have not put the latter back in at all yet..
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    Re: In a Pool Fight

    The part we are struggling with is that you say you met the 3 shocking requirements (CC<0.5, OCLT<1, water clear), but then turn around and say the water is cloudy. Which is it?

    Was the water clear and then you let the FC drop to 4 and now it is cloudy again?
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