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    Swg for agp

    Hi,
    Wanted to see what everyone thought about swg for agp?
    The local pool store advised me against it with an agp.
    They said if I had an igp it would be a different story.
    I guess due to the issues they have had with corrosion.
    They actually stopped selling an agp swg system due to the issues they were having, I guess issues like corrosion of the skimmer basket screws, etc. they said they even tried stainless and had the same issues?
    Anyone here running an swg on an agp?
    Thanks in advance!
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    Re: Swg for agp

    Skimmer basket screws that aren't stainless would rust regrdless of the chlorine source.

    There is no reason not to use an SWCG in your pool.
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    Swg for agp

    This is why you have to love this place
    So the screws they were using must not have been stainless?
    Now for the swcg hunt
    Thanks!
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    Re: Swg for agp

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnT
    Skimmer basket screws that aren't stainless would rust regrdless of the chlorine source.

    There is no reason not to use an SWCG in your pool.
    Ummmmmmmm...........one reason not to is if it will VOID your specific pool warranty.
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    Re: Swg for agp

    I think woodyp is generally right about steel parts to pools but I was curious, so I looked up a common AGP manufacturer people have on this forum...Sharkline.

    From Sharkline's warranty, specifically "Limitations of Warrenty" section:
    Damages caused by the utilization of a salt water chlorination system in combination with a steel pool structure (top ledges, uprights, joiner plates, wall
    channels).
    Specifically mentions steel, so resin should be okay. Does not specifically mention steel walls. Bottom line, I would check your warranty, but it may be fine with a swg.

    I have a swg (Intex) and love it I do not have a warranty since I got my pool used.
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    Re: Swg for agp

    As a builder we are discussing not selling swcg for abg since on a new pool it automatically voids the warranty per our manufacturer.
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    Re: Swg for agp

    That is a big reason to go with a resin pool if you haven't gotten a pool yet. Mine is approved for salt water.

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    Re: Swg for agp

    Quote Originally Posted by timdog
    That is a big reason to go with a resin pool if you haven't gotten a pool yet. Mine is approved for salt water.
    What brand and model is it?
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    Re: Swg for agp

    Quote Originally Posted by timdog
    That is a big reason to go with a resin pool if you haven't gotten a pool yet. Mine is approved for salt water.
    May I ask what the name of the pool is?

    [edit] thanks linen lol
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    Swg for agp

    I called and sent an email to see what they say?
    Said allow 48 hours for reply
    My top/bottom rails and top covers, etc are resin but I think my pool wall is galvanized steel?
    18' x 33' Aqua leader AGP (~19k gal) w/hayward swimpro voyager cartridge filter and 2hp hayward pump.
    8 Gal LQ, hayward heater.

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    Re: Swg for agp

    Highlandreef, what brand and model do you have? (Might make sense to put your pool details in your sig ).
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    Re: Swg for agp

    If it is a steel wall which it most likely is, salt will eat at any exposed steel it can get to, which in turn will eventually weaken the wall causing it to tear open. Wilbar is the most common manufacturer of abg kits, they manufacture for several companies, their warranty is void if salt is used. Says it right in the warranty card. Make sure to read the warranty so you know don't take the word of a salesman or internet sale, be sure you know.
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    Swg for agp

    My pool is a wilbar so I pretty much expect them to say no way
    18' x 33' Aqua leader AGP (~19k gal) w/hayward swimpro voyager cartridge filter and 2hp hayward pump.
    8 Gal LQ, hayward heater.

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    Swg for agp

    Well, to my surprise they said its not an issue and it will not void warrantee.
    My pool is actually a aqua leader creations.
    Turns out aqua leader was purchased by tridium which was purchased by wilbar lol!
    Also looks like sharkline is owned by wilbar

    Anyway, looks like It won't void warrantee but the question is should I do it as the wall is still steel?
    18' x 33' Aqua leader AGP (~19k gal) w/hayward swimpro voyager cartridge filter and 2hp hayward pump.
    8 Gal LQ, hayward heater.

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    Re: Swg for agp

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlandreef
    Well, to my surprise they said its not an issue and it will not void warrantee.
    My pool is actually a aqua leader creations.
    Turns out aqua leader was purchased by tridium which was purchased by wilbar lol!
    Also looks like sharkline is owned by wilbar

    Anyway, looks like It won't void warranty but the question is should I do it as the wall is still steel?
    I am using a swg with a steel wall with no problems (by the way, I think my pool is an aqualeader). I would assume the problems might show up if the skimmer/return openings were leaking or if there was a hole in the liner that allowed salt water to pool on the steel. With that said, I was having a return side leak for a few weeks last season where water was leaking down the side of my pool wall...saw no signs of corrosion/oxidation.
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Re: Swg for agp

    ok, i am getting sticker shock from these things in realizing they are about 700-800
    does anyone know if the jandy is a decent one, are any better than another?

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    Thanks everyone!
    18' x 33' Aqua leader AGP (~19k gal) w/hayward swimpro voyager cartridge filter and 2hp hayward pump.
    8 Gal LQ, hayward heater.

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    Re: Swg for agp

    I have an Esther Williams 24' AGP that is just completing 6 summers of use. I have used a SWG since the beginning and been pleased with the simplicity. The pool is showing bad corrosion around the skimmer box and at the base of the wall, especially near the skimmer because the pool overflows when we get a lot of rain in a few hours time. Also some top rails have rusted through, especially the one next to the return fitting.

    I'm planning on replacing the pool before next season and I'm debating whether to stay with the SWG. I have found a few resin pools that say they are guaranteed even when a SWG is used, namely: The Cozumel and the Grand Bahama, mfg by Asahi, the Sharkline Matrix, and possibly the Aqualeader Reflexion--I'm still checking on this one. Has anyone else replaced an AGP using a SWG, and if so, what replacement did you go with?

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