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    Need Advice on buying a AGP

    I'm currently looking to buy an above ground pool and I need some advice. What are some good brands, prefered styles (round or oval),(resin or resin coated steel), sizing , features...etc. I grew up with an inground pool but have never swam in an AGP. I have two kids 8 and 14 yrs. Lots of room on an acreage. I have my eye on a used 24' x 52" round, resin coated gavanized steel frame, Mighty Sun is the brand. Sand filter, 1.5 hp pump, solar panels for heat.
    18x33 Oval AGP. Unibead liner, Compupool CPSC 36 SWG, 1.5 HP Hayward, 200 lb sand filter, wedding cake steps, TFT 100, Pool Rover Jr. Liner pad and foam cove.

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    Re: Need Advice on buying a AGP

    If it's in good shape and there are no serious rusting or any wrinkles in the wall, AND you can get it at a good price, I'd say go for it. You'll have to replace the liner and the sand (you don't want to move the filter with sand in it). Other than that, a little plumbing is all you need.
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    Buying a used pool (actually getting it free off of Craigslist) worked great for me . In terms of brands, there are so many and like Bama said, I too think you are better off going to observe the quality and shape it is in first hand. Take a look at this thread: http://www.troublefreepool.com/pool-removal-t37997.html. Let us know if you have questions!
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Re: Need Advice on buying a AGP

    search search search, read read read.
    That's my personal recommendation, using the time before spring to get better educated and prepared for a spring install.
    Read Pool School on this site and search for reviews and manufacturers.

    I have a Sharkline Matrix bought from Family Pool Fun.com and recommend both.
    20' X 54" Sharkline Matrix Resin AGP, 9400 Gallons, Sta-Rite 1 HP Dynamo Pump, 150 lb Pentair Sand Filter, Gorilla Pad,
    Foam Cove, Taylor K-2006 kit, BBB method, 8'X20' Fafco Sunsaver Hard Plumb, DIY Fountain, Margarittaville Fiji


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    Re: Need Advice on buying a AGP

    Thanks for the advice. I've been checking out new pool venders online aswell, it looks like there are decent pool packages for approx the same asking price as the used one. "Poolsuppliescanada.ca" appears to have some good deals. This is a great site looks like I have some reading to do and some decisions to make.
    18x33 Oval AGP. Unibead liner, Compupool CPSC 36 SWG, 1.5 HP Hayward, 200 lb sand filter, wedding cake steps, TFT 100, Pool Rover Jr. Liner pad and foam cove.

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    Re: Need Advice on buying a AGP

    Quote Originally Posted by Frostbite
    Thanks for the advice. I've been checking out new pool venders online aswell, it looks like there are decent pool packages for approx the same asking price as the used one. "Poolsuppliescanada.ca" appears to have some good deals. This is a great site looks like I have some reading to do and some decisions to make.
    I would definitely agree that if you pay much for a used AGP you should buy a new one instead. I would be looking for sellers of used AGPs that are motivated to get it out of their yard. I got mine for free, but if I had to pay, I would not have paid more than a few hundred (3) for it...and only if it was in good shape. Maybe a little more if it had rockstar equipment that was verified working...and maybe if it was already taken down (though it is harder to inspect then, but easier on the body). But I am cheap.
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Re: Need Advice on buying a AGP

    Quote Originally Posted by linen
    I would definitely agree that if you pay much for a used AGP you should buy a new one instead. I would be looking for sellers of used AGPs that are motivated to get it out of their yard. I got mine for free, but if I had to pay, I would not have paid more than a few hundred (3) for it...and only if it was in good shape. Maybe a little more if it had rockstar equipment that was verified working...and maybe if it was already taken down (though it is harder to inspect then, but easier on the body). But I am cheap.
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    I bought a used 21' Princeton with 1 hp pump and Hayward cartridge filter for $200 if I took it down.
    Most of the bottom rails were gone as it was buried about 6-12"
    Liner in good shape but some fading from over bleaching as the pool owner was a puck freak with a lot of floaters.

    New rails, a few new top plates, a bolt set, new 72" expandable liner, case of epoxy paint from home depot.
    I'm adding all pool wall and bottom foam for a smoother look and will have right at $1000 for a $2800-3000 pool new.

    Deals can be had, mine was a Craigslist ad.
    Working slowly to get it up soon.

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    Re: Need Advice on buying a AGP

    Chuck,

    Sounds like a great deal! Ours is a 21' off of CL as well. As you and I (and others) have found, if you willing to do a little work, an AGP can very affordable. Me and my boys worked at it though. If I had to pay $3K plus install, we would not have a pool right now.
    Expandable liner sounds like you are planning a deep end...I am glad I did it for ours! Which reminds me, I think I owe you a response on another thread about how I did my deep end... http://www.troublefreepool.com/post333379.html#p333379

    I will go there and a least make a start on explaining how I did mine.

    linen
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Re: Need Advice on buying a AGP

    I wish there were used AGPs listed at those prices here in the far north, maybe I'll have better luck once the snow melts, obviously I won't be able to inspect or remove it anyways, just impatient and want summer to arrive. An expandable liner sounds interesting, I'll have to check out that "how to". Anyways here's the add for pool.

    http://winnipeg.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sel ... Z356651144
    18x33 Oval AGP. Unibead liner, Compupool CPSC 36 SWG, 1.5 HP Hayward, 200 lb sand filter, wedding cake steps, TFT 100, Pool Rover Jr. Liner pad and foam cove.

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    Re: Need Advice on buying a AGP

    Although that looks to be in good shape, I would probably walk away. Seems like a high price for used (more than half of a new one). If i knew it was in perfect shape and the equipment is almost new, it might be reasonable at 1000. Actually I am too cheap for that...
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Agreed, 2 grand for that model of pool is steep, for a bit more you can get a brand new comparable pool. If your near Winnipeg check out NorthWestWholesale.com they are in Winnipeg and have pretty good prices on pools although I think they only carry resin models which are a a few dollars more than all steel. Last year they had a free pool give away contest.

    THey were my number 2 choice for a pool, almost bought from them.
    20' X 54" Sharkline Matrix Resin AGP, 9400 Gallons, Sta-Rite 1 HP Dynamo Pump, 150 lb Pentair Sand Filter, Gorilla Pad,
    Foam Cove, Taylor K-2006 kit, BBB method, 8'X20' Fafco Sunsaver Hard Plumb, DIY Fountain, Margarittaville Fiji


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    Thanks Cramar, yes I'm close to Winnipeg (45mins away), I'll have to check out Northwestwholesale.com. Are resin pools worth the extra cash, what are the advantages of going resin. I'll also check out Familypoolfun.com your pool package is basically what I'm looking for. Do you find 20' x 54" a resonable size (cost wise) to operate.
    18x33 Oval AGP. Unibead liner, Compupool CPSC 36 SWG, 1.5 HP Hayward, 200 lb sand filter, wedding cake steps, TFT 100, Pool Rover Jr. Liner pad and foam cove.

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    I wanted resin so the rails and components wouldn't rust, I think it's worth the extra money but get what you can afford. I know a few people that dealt with Northwest and said good things, I think their pools kits are priced well but I think their accessories are pricey.

    We had a particular spot we wanted our pool and 20' was perfect, I wish I had bigger but the only spot would be in the rear of our yard and we didn't want so far from the house. I think 20' is a good size, I think there's enough room, but I would recommend going as big as you can afford.
    20' X 54" Sharkline Matrix Resin AGP, 9400 Gallons, Sta-Rite 1 HP Dynamo Pump, 150 lb Pentair Sand Filter, Gorilla Pad,
    Foam Cove, Taylor K-2006 kit, BBB method, 8'X20' Fafco Sunsaver Hard Plumb, DIY Fountain, Margarittaville Fiji


    My Build: one-man-one-pool-and-one-deck-agp-pics-t37172.html
    My Build 'To-Do' List for other DIY'ers: my-pool-build-list-t40249.html?hilit=list

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