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    Pool Bid - Houston TX

    First off - We looked at 9 companies, 4 of which come highly recommended and with no complaints on the BBB, angie's list and are raved about on many forums. Of those 9 bids 3 companies did not submit a bid. All bids came within 6k of each other. In the end we are thinking about going with the following bid. The owner came out and looked over the property (he was the first and only bidder that mentioned I needed to call the gas company to upgrade my meter). He was highly approachable and down to earth. And considering other pool builders recommend him and he's been building pools for 30 years. It seems a good fit.

    So please tell me if there is anything missing in this quote.

    14'x28' inground pool
    4'-5'-4.5' depths
    Raised bond wall along length height 6"-12"-6"
    7' spa centered opposite raised bond wall level with pool
    sunshelf bench shelf to the right (south) of Spa
    3-4 stairs to the left (north) of the Spa
    3-4 volleyball umbrella holders
    White marble plaster
    800 sq ft of decking - choice of peagravel or brushed concrete with 4" drains
    12" bullnose brick coping
    Water line tile
    2 skimmers - 2" sch40 lines from the skimmer
    3/4 fan sprayers off the bond wall
    Over flow and area drains plumbed to the street

    Removal and replacement of Fence
    Removal of existing 10'x10' deck
    Skimmer and main drain lines run separately.
    weather proof junction box
    French drain to the street - to deal with my yard not draining properly

    8" oc for rebar #3
    pneumatically applied concrete - per code
    All Electrical run
    Continuous run poly gas line to the heater
    3/4" sch 40 fill line
    2 Main Drains - 2" suction
    2 - 300 watt lights in the pool
    1 - 100 watt light in the spa
    light conduit - 3/4" sch40
    Aqualink PDA PS 6 Radio Remote
    460 Jandy cartridge filter
    PHPM 2hp Jandy plus HP pump
    400k LXi Jandy heater
    All Jandy Valves
    Rainbow 320 3" tablet Erosion clorinator (though I'm going to try the BBB method)
    1.5 qt 240v commercial grade blower
    8 hydroair jets

    Polaris 280 w/ booster
    Initial Startup service and instructions
    Cleaning kit - leaf skimmer, test kit, thermometer
    16' telescoping pole

    So what are some things I need written into the contract?
    The payment schedule is a little skewed his way and we're going to dicker about that.
    14x28 Rectangle 13,000 gallons
    Jandy CV640 cartrige filter
    IG, Diamond brite quartz finish.
    Jandy 2hp 2 speed pump
    TF-100 test kit

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    Re: Pool Bid - Houston TX

    Welcome to TFP!

    Bid amounts are largely regional things. Good thing though is that we have lots of members in the H-town area to give their $0.02.

    If you have a good feeling about this particular PB, that's a good thing. What was the total quote and what are the payment terms that you were questioning?

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    Re: Pool Bid - Houston TX

    Total bid is about 40K

    payment terms are
    35% at dig
    35% at gunite
    25% at deck
    5% at plaster

    I'd like something more like:

    30% dig
    35% gunite
    25% deck
    5% plaster
    5% after pool school / punch list done
    14x28 Rectangle 13,000 gallons
    Jandy CV640 cartrige filter
    IG, Diamond brite quartz finish.
    Jandy 2hp 2 speed pump
    TF-100 test kit

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    Re: Pool Bid - Houston TX

    Sounds very nice. I can tell you that you positively could not get anywhere near that good of a deal around my area!

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    Re: Pool Bid - Houston TX

    I would insist on some payment made after the punch list is completed, like you said above.
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    Re: Pool Bid - Houston TX

    I would try to back end the payments more than the current proposal. They could do the decking very soon after the gunite and before the equipment, electrical and plaster are installed in which case they'd owe you about 10k if they walked the job. Even worse, if he only stub plumbed and walked after the gunite your damages would be far greater.

    That payment schedule was similar to mine and my PB quit my job and I had to finish the pool myself. My damages were about 10k.
    9,200 gal. Gunite Luna Quartz French Grey pool with spill over spa, two fountains on tanning ledge (rarely used)
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    Re: Pool Bid - Houston TX

    I'd definitely make the last payment after punch list is done.
    12k gal gunite, Sunstone Plaster, Pentair IntelliFloŽ VS+SVRS Variable Speed Pump, Pentair Intellichlor IC-40, Pentair CCP520 cart filter

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    Re: Pool Bid - Houston TX

    Quote Originally Posted by nalai
    Total bid is about 40K

    payment terms are
    35% at dig
    35% at gunite
    25% at deck
    5% at plaster

    I'd like something more like:

    30% dig
    35% gunite
    25% deck
    5% plaster
    5% after pool school / punch list done
    we had about
    10% deposit
    26% at dig
    23% at gunite
    16% at tile and coping
    19% at deck, equipment setup, plaster
    5% after startup

    It doesnt add up to 100% because of rounding

    We originally agreed to pay for each phase up front, but got them to switch payments to end of phase.
    17,800 gallon, IG pool, 595 sq feet (17x35x4.5 avg rectangle), Hayward 525 cartridge filter, diamondbrite, 2 hp 2 speed hayward tristar filter, Stenner 45mhp10 automatically chlorinating

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    Re: Pool Bid - Houston TX

    If your in the city limits you need to find out who is going to pull you permits.. I have seen lots of guys not pull Hoa or city permits lately..Also I would go with a DE filter, the cost going to a DE is very little...

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    Re: Pool Bid - Houston TX

    Can I ask who do you use and are you happy about it?

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    Re: Pool Bid - Houston TX

    We're almost done with the build now, plaster was done yesterday and it's about 2/3 full of water right now. all that remains is finishing touches and final yard cleanup.

    The PB we ended up choosing was Atlantis Pools & Spa. We've been very happy with Kelly and the work he's done, and would highly recommend him to anyone in the area looking to build.

    We ended up keeping the same payment terms, but our PB agreed to shift the final 5% to after pool school and final cleanup, which seemed fair to us.
    14x28 Rectangle 13,000 gallons
    Jandy CV640 cartrige filter
    IG, Diamond brite quartz finish.
    Jandy 2hp 2 speed pump
    TF-100 test kit

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    Re: Pool Bid - Houston TX

    Can you post of pictures of the finished pool? Are you happy with everything about it?

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    Re: Pool Bid - Houston TX

    Here is the best picture of the finished pool.


    IMAG0891 by Nalai Nalai, on Flickr

    we still have a few things left on our punch list. But otherwise they are done.

    Over all we are very happy.
    14x28 Rectangle 13,000 gallons
    Jandy CV640 cartrige filter
    IG, Diamond brite quartz finish.
    Jandy 2hp 2 speed pump
    TF-100 test kit

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