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    New vinyl pool build in central PA

    Hi everybody. I have been reading the forum for a while and finally signup with PB to build the pool. In order to build the pool we need to put a couple retaining walls which would eat probably 50% of the budget but this is something we have to do.
    Here are pool specs.
    1. Vinyl double roman 48x20(main area 40x20 and each end adds extra 4'). One end to have steps and other diving board.
    2. Shallow end PB is going to put 4' wall instead of 3'6" and deep end gets 9'.
    3. Three returns, one on each side to generate water movement around the pool and one of the deep end.
    4. No main drains. Two skimmers. 6' Diving board.
    5. 2" Plumbing.
    6. All pentair equipment. VF pump, 400K heater, easytouch 4 + IC60, two LED lights, 520Sqft cartridge filter, wireless remote.
    7. Stone coping and pavers around the pool area.
    8. LoopLoc safety cover.

    Photo album: http://slava.no-ip.org/~poolpic/photo/
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    IG double roman vinyl 40x20. 35000 gal. 9' deep. Diving board.Pentair 400HD gas heater, ItelliFlow Variable Flow pump, 520 cartridge filter, two pentair G5 lights, IC60 SWG cell.
    Photo album: http://slava.no-ip.org/~poolpic/photo

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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

    Cool, I never personally seen a pool deeper than 8' in the deep end,other than an inch or so.

    Don't forget to ask if he is including a safety cover after it's all done. You don't want to be stuck with a tarp with a brand new pool
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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

    Slavka - fellow PA'er here. In Williamsport PA. Pool dig starts this Monday for me. 18x36 Mountain pond in-ground, salt water and all Hayward. What made you jump at the gas vs heat pump. Please advise. I had asked my wife several key questions to our decision to go heat pump, but as usual, she has shifted and is asking me why I did what I did.... Please let me know. Thanks, Ted.

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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

    Quote Originally Posted by X-PertPool
    Cool, I never personally seen a pool deeper than 8' in the deep end,other than an inch or so.

    Don't forget to ask if he is including a safety cover after it's all done. You don't want to be stuck with a tarp with a brand new pool
    Thank you. I forgot to include it in the initial list. Added now.
    IG double roman vinyl 40x20. 35000 gal. 9' deep. Diving board.Pentair 400HD gas heater, ItelliFlow Variable Flow pump, 520 cartridge filter, two pentair G5 lights, IC60 SWG cell.
    Photo album: http://slava.no-ip.org/~poolpic/photo

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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

    Quote Originally Posted by thadius65
    Slavka - fellow PA'er here. In Williamsport PA. Pool dig starts this Monday for me. 18x36 Mountain pond in-ground, salt water and all Hayward. What made you jump at the gas vs heat pump. Please advise. I had asked my wife several key questions to our decision to go heat pump, but as usual, she has shifted and is asking me why I did what I did.... Please let me know. Thanks, Ted.
    From what I can tell Gas heater will heat the water much faster than heat pump, especially with large pool. So I will not have to wait days for temp to recover. I am not sure though if you will keep maintaining pool temperature.
    IG double roman vinyl 40x20. 35000 gal. 9' deep. Diving board.Pentair 400HD gas heater, ItelliFlow Variable Flow pump, 520 cartridge filter, two pentair G5 lights, IC60 SWG cell.
    Photo album: http://slava.no-ip.org/~poolpic/photo

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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

    Basically Heat Pump vs. Heater

    Initial cost, Heat Pump costs more
    Running cost, Heater costs more
    BTU, Heater has more.
    Heater can be installed indoors with a vent kit. Heat pump can not.
    Heat pump may be more durable in terms of heater exchanger
    Heat pump is a bit more noisy.

    I really can't think of any other ways to compare them.
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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

    Rain and bad weather slow down the build but retaining walls are almost complete and dig date for the pool is tomorrow.
    http://slava.no-ip.org/~poolpic/photo/
    IG double roman vinyl 40x20. 35000 gal. 9' deep. Diving board.Pentair 400HD gas heater, ItelliFlow Variable Flow pump, 520 cartridge filter, two pentair G5 lights, IC60 SWG cell.
    Photo album: http://slava.no-ip.org/~poolpic/photo

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    Dig is done. Walls are going up.
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    IG double roman vinyl 40x20. 35000 gal. 9' deep. Diving board.Pentair 400HD gas heater, ItelliFlow Variable Flow pump, 520 cartridge filter, two pentair G5 lights, IC60 SWG cell.
    Photo album: http://slava.no-ip.org/~poolpic/photo

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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

    Looks fantastic keep the pics coming. The retaining walls while expensive add a lot of character to the sight. I love walkout sites. They are beautiful with pools
    Theresa and/or Gary

    Complete DIY: 20x40' rectangle. Resin walls, vinyl lined. 33000 gallons. Full width steps. 8' deep. Diving board, slide. Hayward pro series super pump, sand filter. Raypack 336K BTU heater. Main drain, 2 skimmers, 3 returns, 2 amerilite lights with quick change lens Aquamatic auto cover and a partridge in a pear tree.
    Breaking our backs in the hopes that one of our six kids will care for us when we are old ;)

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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

    Some progress. Second wall is coming up. Pool walls are bolted together.
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    IG double roman vinyl 40x20. 35000 gal. 9' deep. Diving board.Pentair 400HD gas heater, ItelliFlow Variable Flow pump, 520 cartridge filter, two pentair G5 lights, IC60 SWG cell.
    Photo album: http://slava.no-ip.org/~poolpic/photo

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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

    That is awesome! I love the terraced feel the walls give to the yard.
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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

    Looks great. Those walls must've cost you a fortune.

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    Yes. walls look great but were the necessaty, otherwise we could not fit the pool in our original grade.
    Walls are about 24$K.Crazy
    IG double roman vinyl 40x20. 35000 gal. 9' deep. Diving board.Pentair 400HD gas heater, ItelliFlow Variable Flow pump, 520 cartridge filter, two pentair G5 lights, IC60 SWG cell.
    Photo album: http://slava.no-ip.org/~poolpic/photo

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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

    Quote Originally Posted by slavka001
    Yes. walls look great but were the necessaty, otherwise we could not fit the pool in our original grade.
    Walls are about 24$K.Crazy
    I have a severely sloped yard as well and have looked into building a wall similar to yours. The cost of having it professionally done is outrageous. The end product looks awesome, but that's a hit to the pocketbook I just can't take.

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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

    Quote Originally Posted by slavka001
    Yes. walls look great but were the necessaty, otherwise we could not fit the pool in our original grade.
    Walls are about 24$K.Crazy
    I did something pretty similar. I had 20 foot grade difference front to back, and about 15 feet side to side. I had right at 1000 sq feet of Vers Loc put in. $27,000 just for the walls! Yes, crazy expensive.

    Your pool with those walls is going to look really nice.







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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

    Some progress again. Pool floor got some concrete and vermiculite is next. Backfill is going on today and desc will be poured tomorrow. Getting stairs added to the deck.
    On the weekend I have connected retaining wall lights and mounted junction boxes for equipment hookup.
    Still struggling to connect the equipment since we do not have pavers yet. So i build the box around the pipes and the plan is to do the pavers in the equipment area, connect plumbing and then finish pavers where the pipes coming out out of the ground.
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    IG double roman vinyl 40x20. 35000 gal. 9' deep. Diving board.Pentair 400HD gas heater, ItelliFlow Variable Flow pump, 520 cartridge filter, two pentair G5 lights, IC60 SWG cell.
    Photo album: http://slava.no-ip.org/~poolpic/photo

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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

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    IG double roman vinyl 40x20. 35000 gal. 9' deep. Diving board.Pentair 400HD gas heater, ItelliFlow Variable Flow pump, 520 cartridge filter, two pentair G5 lights, IC60 SWG cell.
    Photo album: http://slava.no-ip.org/~poolpic/photo

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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

    pictures
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    IG double roman vinyl 40x20. 35000 gal. 9' deep. Diving board.Pentair 400HD gas heater, ItelliFlow Variable Flow pump, 520 cartridge filter, two pentair G5 lights, IC60 SWG cell.
    Photo album: http://slava.no-ip.org/~poolpic/photo

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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

    Looks like they are doing a good job!

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    Re: New vinyl pool build in central PA

    I wanted to provide a picture of my walls in my back yard. We would have NEVER imagined that we had a requirement for this much wall material. For those following this thread, just know the wall is a major percentage of the construction. My wall material alone (all my labor) including PA Bluestone deck will run approximately $35K. To-date, I've spent $33K. If I had known how much it cost, I would have used a cheaper wall material. For those building pools, make sure you really pay attention to your elevations. We would have never believed we would be 8' below grade at the deep end.
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