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    Cloudy Water

    Cloudy Water

    BBB method

    FC 4.5
    CC 5.0
    PH 7.0
    TA 50
    B 50
    CYA 70
    CH 200

    All of the sudden it went a little milky. Will clean the Quad DE 80 filter this weekend. I did add a treatment of stain and scale 3 weeks ago. Maybe it just started to work?


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    Re: Cloudy Water

    Bah!!!

    CC is .5
    TC is 5.0

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    Re: Cloudy Water

    I plugged your numbers into the pool calculator and get a CSI of -1.0 (water temp around 85 deg CSI is worse if water is colder).

    This is bad if you have a plaster pool. The water will want to etch calcium out of your plaster. Get your PH up to 7.5. If you have plaster, this might explain the sudden cloudiness.

    You are also below the minimum FC of 5 for a CYA level of 70. is it possible it dropped way 4.5 for some amount of time?
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    the 7.0 is intentional. Slow steady cleanup of calcium scale. I usually run 7.2 but dipped a bit.

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    ooo forgot to say I run a lil polyq 60 to keep Chlorine on the min side

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    Re: Cloudy Water

    But algaecide is not a chlorine replacement. Using it doesn't mean you run less chlorine than what is recommended for the CYA level. If it's used at all, it's in addition to chlorination as an added precaution. In most cases, algaecide is never necessary. Not a drop has entered my pool since filling and using BBB. Two summers worth. All I use to prevent algae is chlorine.

    As to your question about the pucks, if you're needing to use bleach every day while using pucks at the same time... something is off (probably the high CYA, which will go higher the more pucks you use). When you stop using the pucks, you will still have to dose the pool daily. Those of us who don't have SWG's do that every day as part of the routine. No big deal.
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    So the answer to my question is???? To little FC? I used the polyq as a preventative measure because i was running a lower FC to avoid fighting with the sequestering agent. If the cloudyness pre algae then I'll up the FC. If its Calcium then I'm fine with it... It's what I want.

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    Re: Cloudy Water

    How are you chlorinating this pool? Now and in the past. How did you get scale in the first place? Those answers may give some insight but I don't think there's any one glaring thing to cause cloudy water.

    Why are you waiting 'til this weekend to clean filter? Since a filter is what keeps your water clean, it seems like that's the first thing to do.

    Do you have a suspicion you have let your chlorine get too low (how low?) for a period of time.

    Cloudy pool water can be any of 100 different things but the first thing I would do is make darn sure I had a very clean filter and then go from there.

    When you say it wen't cloudy "all of a sudden" what do you mean? 10 minutes? overnight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by duraleigh
    How are you chlorinating this pool? Now and in the past. How did you get scale in the first place? Those answers may give some insight but I don't think there's any one glaring thing to cause cloudy water.

    Why are you waiting 'til this weekend to clean filter? Since a filter is what keeps your water clean, it seems like that's the first thing to do.

    Do you have a suspicion you have let your chlorine get too low (how low?) for a period of time.

    Cloudy pool water can be any of 100 different things but the first thing I would do is make darn sure I had a very clean filter and then go from there.

    When you say it wen't cloudy "all of a sudden" what do you mean? 10 minutes? overnight?
    BBB method

    Scale was formed from prolonged high TA and PH

    All of a sudden was overnight....

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    Re: Cloudy Water

    chlorination....pucks? Cal Hypo? Bleach?

    Have you cleaned your filter?
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    Re: Cloudy Water

    BBB method

    Will clean filter Friday.... Its really not that dirty but can't hurt.

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    Re: Cloudy Water

    Quote Originally Posted by duraleigh
    How are you chlorinating this pool? Now and in the past.
    Quote Originally Posted by poolvibe
    BBB method
    Duraleigh may have asked twice since he does not assume you meant bleach when BBB is mentioned. From my perspective, the BBB method does not absolutely require your chlorine source to be from bleach, though this is the typical source. Rather, the BBB method teaches to test pool water with a good (appropriate) test kit to know what chemicals and how much to add to the pool water. Duraleigh correct me if I am wrong about why you asked twice?
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