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    Channel Drain covered in shotcrete?

    When the contractor's shot the pool they covered the channel drain with shotcrete. You can see the outline of the drain, but it is completely covered. Is this normal? Also if you have an in floor cleaning system(PV3), do you need wall returns as well? Pictures posted soon.

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    Re: Channel Drain covered in shotcrete?

    they usually cover it in cloth or some tape or so and shoot around and over it, they will remove it before they plaster it

    or so I hope they do

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    Re: Channel Drain covered in shotcrete?

    Welcome to TFP!!

    It's a good idea to have a couple/ few wall returns with the in-floor system. They'll provide top circulation so that floating debris ends up in the skimmers.
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    Re: Channel Drain covered in shotcrete?

    This is how the channel drain looks currently after being sprayed over with shotcrete. Also there are no returns only the in floor system.
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    Re: Channel Drain covered in shotcrete?

    Mine looked pretty much the same after shotcrete (gunite in my case) but it turned out all right. Apparently there's a built-in cover that's removed at plastering. See pics at http://gallery.me.com/kellysean1#100034

    My pool has an in-floor system but also two returns for the two skimmers. I'm no expert but having both top & bottom cleaning systems is probably a good thing.
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    Re: Channel Drain covered in shotcrete?

    My personal opinion is that I'd have them add at least 2 wall returns. Now's the time to do it, rather than wishing later that you'd had them. All they have to do at this stage of the game is knock a couple of holes in the walls. It's a whole nuther ball game later.
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    Re: Channel Drain covered in shotcrete?

    nutjob,

    Wish I would have seen your pool before I started mine. I would have stole some ideas. What a BEAUTIFUL pool. It certainly did work out!!!
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    Re: Channel Drain covered in shotcrete?

    Quote Originally Posted by XsAllOverIt
    nutjob,

    Wish I would have seen your pool before I started mine. I would have stole some ideas. What a BEAUTIFUL pool. It certainly did work out!!!
    Awww, you know how to make a guy blush!

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    Re: Channel Drain covered in shotcrete?

    Quote Originally Posted by nutjob
    ... My pool has an in-floor system but also two returns for the two skimmers. I'm no expert but having both top & bottom cleaning systems is probably a good thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bama Rambler
    My personal opinion is that I'd have them add at least 2 wall returns....
    My only 3 returns are in the floor (and they're not even an in-floor cleaning system) with a main drain and 2 skimmers. I've never even considered, in 15 years of owning this pool, that a couple of wall returns would improve anything.

    I'm sure Nutjob & Bama have legit reasons for their opinions. I'm no expert, just another country heard from.

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    Re: Channel Drain covered in shotcrete?

    Thanks for the responses, drain was protected with a cover and seems to be a non-issue now. Glad to hear others with in floor cleaning systems don't necessarily have wall returns too. The pool seems to be coming along, albeit slowly. Here are some recent shots of the tile going in.
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    Re: Channel Drain covered in shotcrete?

    Do you know what brand of in-floor cleaner you have? Paramount normally designs the system after getting the plans from the builder and they include wall returns provide top to bottom circulation.
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    Re: Channel Drain covered in shotcrete?

    Do you know what brand of in-floor cleaner you have? Paramount normally designs the system after getting the plans from the builder and they include wall returns provide top to bottom circulation.
    It is the PV3, by Paramount.

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    Re: Channel Drain covered in shotcrete?

    That is going to be a very nice pool. Hope to see some progress real soon. Thanks for posting.
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