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    Starting over......All equip stolen

    So we are buying a HUD home...just about to close and all equipmet was stolen. Need to replace out of my pocket ..want to go back w salt system. Heres what I got left.
    34000 gal gunite with spill over 7' dia spa , waterfall . 2 timers and airruator for spa.

    It had a heater , main pump , DE filter, and booster pump for polaris .
    I'm in North Texas so its hot here alot. Thinking 2 stage main pump and cartridge filter How big of each?
    and how big of booster pump? Also does the booster pump run the spa & pool cleaner?
    34000 gal gunite swamp with spill over 7' dia spa , waterfall

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    Re: Starting over......All equip stolen

    sorry, not your point but completely irritates me when folks take stuff that's not theirs. Irritates me just as much when someone being foreclosed on intentionally vandalizes the home. Glad you don't seem as frustrated.
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    Re: Starting over......All equip stolen

    Hi, welcome to TFP! Sorry you are having to deal with replacing the equipment, but it can be a blessing in the long run. I would go with a 1 or 1 1/2 horse power two speed pump, and the largest filter you can afford. The larger the filter the longer you can go between cleanings. If you decide on a cartridge filter try to include a "waste" line in the plumbing before the filter. That way if you ever need to drain the pool or vacuum to waste it will be much easier.
    Do you currently have a Polaris? I think the size of the booster is determined more by the needs of the cleaner than the size of the pool, but I may be mistaken.
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    Re: Starting over......All equip stolen

    No, Pool Cleaner (polaris) is not there either. There is a waste line , it was DE. Maybe a cartridge filter is not the way to go w salt system.??
    34000 gal gunite swamp with spill over 7' dia spa , waterfall

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    Re: Starting over......All equip stolen

    The things that you should take into account when choosing a filter are:
    1. How much debris you get in your yard or pool. (Any overhanging trees, flowering trees nearby, lots of mulch or dirt that could potentially wash into the pool with heavy rain? Are you scooping up large amounts of debris off the pool surface daily? How much fine particulate debris is in the water? DE tends to filter the best, Cartridges filter as well or better according to some folks, Sand filtering can be improved with the addition of DE. All filter types give good water clarity.)

    2. The characteristics of your fill water. (Fill water high in calcium, iron, or copper. Well water that takes a long time to provide adequate water for re-fills. Cost of water in your area. Any restrictions limiting the amount of water used per month, or restrictions on the discharge of water and where it may be discharged. Backwashing sand filters use more water, and if you have to backwash often you will be topping off your pool more frequently. If your fill water has metals that will require more frequent additions of sequesterant to prevent stains. If your fill water is high in calcium, frequent water additions will result in very high calcium levels in the pool which will require more diligence adjusting TA and pH levels to prevent scale formation. If water is rationed or expensive in your area you will want a filter that uses less water, generally cartridge systems use the least amount of water.)

    3. The amount of time you can devote to filter maintenance. (All filters require a thorough cleaning at least once per year, more often if you don't keep the water balanced and develop algae, or you get a lot of debris in the pool. DE filter maintenance is very labor intensive when you need to clean the grids. Some DE filters are plumbed with a multi-port valve that allows you to backwash. Backwashing will remove some of the dirty DE, you will add fresh DE and continue filtering until backwashing no longer improves flow. Then the DE filter will need to be opened up, and the grids hosed off to restore optimal function. Some areas have restrictions on how used DE is disposed of. That would be something to look into if you are considering a DE filter. Cartridge filters are cleaned by removing the cartridge, hosing it off and putting it back. Cartridge filters typically use less water to clean.)

    4. Cost. (You want the largest filter you can afford, regardless of type. Cartridge filters tend to be more expensive up front, and replacement cartridges may be expensive as well. DE filters require at least 1 change of DE per year. DE tends to run $25-30 for a 25 lb box. DE substitutes cost a little more. Sand filters require an initial installation of sand, but that same sand can be deep cleaned once per year and used indefinitely.)

    It helps to make yourself a little chart so you can compare the pluses and minuses of each type of filter for your situation.
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