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    In-Floor Cleaner Popup

    I have about 12-15 In-Floor Cleaner Popup in my pool, for last couple of weeks, I don't see all of them rotating properly, there 4-5 of them rotating frequently, but rest of them are not in use OR atleast I haven't seen them poping up.

    What could be the reason ? Thanks
    11000 Gallons, Cartridge Filter, UG, Plaster, Shasta pool, filter model Hayward C4030, Pump Motor Emerson 1-1/2HP Full Rated EB2977T, Pump model Northstar SP4010NS

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    Re: In-Floor Cleaner Popup

    Dirty filter most likely... If not that, the water valve needs attention.

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    Re: In-Floor Cleaner Popup

    Quote Originally Posted by poolvibe
    Dirty filter most likely... If not that, the water valve needs attention.
    I cleaned the filter last week, which water valve ?
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    Re: In-Floor Cleaner Popup

    Somewhere, you have a valve that controls water flow to the heads. Are all the heads that are still working on the same zone (going at the same time)?
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    Re: In-Floor Cleaner Popup

    Quote Originally Posted by Melt In The Sun
    Somewhere, you have a valve that controls water flow to the heads. Are all the heads that are still working on the same zone (going at the same time)?
    The valves that are working are not in the same zone, they are opposite sides of the pool, but they are always the one working, It's not random, but quite predictable.

    You can see pictures of my pool pump in following thread, which thing control's these head's ? thanks

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    Re: In-Floor Cleaner Popup

    It's the one with the "cleaning system" sticker :P

    I have the same one; with the pump running, you should see the little paddle on top spinning very quickly, and the gears turning slowly around. If this is working well, the heads themselves may be jammed up. The most common culprit is calcium scale. If you have the tool to remove the heads (or something that will work), it's an easy thing to check.

    Feel like posting some test results?
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    Re: In-Floor Cleaner Popup

    Your system is manufactured by A&A manufacturing. If you are the original owner of the pool they have a lifetime warranty. If not you can purchase them as well.

    http://www.aamfg.com/

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    Re: In-Floor Cleaner Popup

    Quote Originally Posted by Melt In The Sun
    It's the one with the "cleaning system" sticker :P

    I have the same one
    That's good to know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melt In The Sun
    ; with the pump running, you should see the little paddle on top spinning very quickly, and the gears turning slowly around.
    I can only see from top, that something is spinning very fast, but can't tell whether gears are turning or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melt In The Sun
    If this is working well, the heads themselves may be jammed up. The most common culprit is calcium scale.
    If you have the tool to remove the heads (or something that will work), it's an easy thing to check.
    What is calcium scale ? I do have very hard water here in AZ, and when i went for a water test last week, he did mentioned this thing, and recommended for a water drain and acid wash in Off season. Regarding tool, is there any special tool? or I can use a screw driver ? I hope nothing breaks , shall i try to pull them up when pump is running ?

    Your help is highly appreciated.
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    Re: In-Floor Cleaner Popup

    Quote Originally Posted by fatboysam
    I can only see from top, that something is spinning very fast, but can't tell whether gears are turning or not.
    You may have to sit there and look a while; the gears should really be moving slow. It may take 30 seconds or so to see them moving, but it sounds like the valve is working just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by fatboysam
    What is calcium scale ? I do have very hard water here in AZ, and when i went for a water test last week, he did mentioned this thing, and recommended for a water drain and acid wash in Off season. Regarding tool, is there any special tool? or I can use a screw driver ? I hope nothing breaks , shall i try to pull them up when pump is running?
    Calcium scale is what crystallizes out of the pool water when you have high calcium and pH; very common in Arizona. You likely have a bunch of it on the tile at the waterline. I strongly suspect this is the issue. Are there some heads that pop up only partially? If you stomp repeatedly on one of the heads when it's running, does it seem to loosen up a little?

    Can you post a set of current test results, and how you got them (pool store, own kit, etc.)
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    Take a read through Pool School when you have a few minutes.

    The tool to remove the heads looks like this, but may be slightly different if you have some of their newer heads:
    https://aainfloor.com/store/product_inf ... cts_id=145

    You may not need the tool to get them out, but it will make it easier. If you're reasonably handy, you can probably make something that would work out of some spare wood and a couple nails.
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    Re: In-Floor Cleaner Popup

    I have the same pool as fatboysam, my issue is only the stairs, I removed and cleaned all the pop up's but the flow is still only about half what it should be. Also the return flow is not as strong as it use to be. I cleaned the filter, but same problem. Anyone have any ideas on this? All other station Pop up's on the pool floor working with proper flow.

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