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    Is this algae or something else?

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    I think this may be mustard algae but I'd like some of your expert opinions.
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    Is this algae or something else?

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    Re: Is this algae or something else?

    Mustard algae tends to grow on the shady sides of the pool. What you are seeing may be regular algae, or it could be pollen. Algae will feel slimy to the touch, pollen will feel powdery. Have you been testing the water regularly? If so has there been any change in chlorine consumption? Please post a complete set of test results and we will help you figure this out. Without a complete set of test results we are only guessing at what it could be.
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    Re: Is this algae or something else?

    Welcome to the forum

    You can also tell us how the algae/stuff acts.

    If it is only on the floor, it can be pollen or algae.
    If it is on the wall, it is algae.

    Is it yellow or greenish/yellow? When you brush it does brush off easily and make a yellow dust?

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    Re: Is this algae or something else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    Welcome to the forum

    You can also tell us how the algae/stuff acts.

    If it is only on the floor, it can be pollen or algae. only on the floor
    If it is on the wall, it is algae.

    Is it yellow or greenish/yellow? When you brush it does brush off easily and make a yellow dust? greenish/yellow/grayish/brown LOL. brushes easily, i can actually just get close and the water moving causes it to make a dust, I'd say the dust could be yellow but id call it closer to brownish

    Waiting for full set of water test results I have been testing but I'm embarassed to say with strips. I just ordered the TF-100. Shouldnt take long since I'm only 30 miles from Duraleigh.


    I've got the SWCG set on 35% and according to the strips its around 5ppm FC everytime I check. I will post real test results as soon as I can!
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    Re: Is this algae or something else?

    Once you get the test kit an overnight chlorine loss test would be a good idea in addition to the standard set. It helps show whether there's organics in the pool which the chlorine is fighting.

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    Re: Is this algae or something else?

    Got the TF100 today and performed full set of tests. Will check in the morning to complete the OCLT.
    Here are the numbers, cant wait to hear from you all:
    Date 7/27/2011
    FC 10.5
    CC 1
    TC high, Darker Yellow than anything on the block
    pH 7.5
    TA 130
    CH 40
    CYA 100
    Temp 89
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    Re: Is this algae or something else?

    Your CYA is very high (might actually be higher than 100, since that is the upper limit of test). I would suggest a partial drain to get ~70 ppm (for your swg) and refill before you go much farther. It is very hard to shock effectively at that high of a CYA (mustard algae shock will require at least 54 ppm ) probably more since your CYA is probably even higher. By the way, normal shock level at 100 ppm CYA is ~25 ppm, so your FC is very low right now.
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    Re: Is this algae or something else?

    Ok, I went ahead and pumped off 1500 gallons tonight. Will do new tests in the morning when its back full.
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    Re: Is this algae or something else?

    After the partial water change ~1500 gallons. (48" down to 42" in 24' pool)

    Date 7/28/2011
    FC 7.5
    CC 0
    TC 7.5
    pH 7.5
    TA 80
    CH 40
    CYA 90
    Temp 86
    Salt 2600
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    Re: Is this algae or something else?

    You made progress, but now is the time to get that CYA even lower. General guide for swg is 70-80 ppm CYA.
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    Is this algae or something else?

    Should I be concerned about the low CH?
    and am I right to assume that years of trichlor pucks caused cya to be so high?
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    Re: Is this algae or something else?

    You will probably want to address the low CH.. use the pool calculator to determine what you need to add. With a vinyl liner, CH is not as important as it is for some of the other pool surfaces, but I understand if it's too low or way too high it can cause problems with other pool componants and your swg.

    Yes, using pucks is certainly where your cya came from if you've never put any plain "stabilizer" in your pool before. Pucks either have cya "stabilizer" or calcium in them to make them safe to use. If you've used pucks for years, you're lucky that your cya wasn't higher requiring more draining.
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    Re: Is this algae or something else?

    Minimum CH for a vinyl pool is 50, so your could come up a little. Check the salt levels for your SWG and make sure they did not drop too low. When you run the overnight test be sure to turn the SWG off!
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    Re: Is this algae or something else?

    Ive now changed atleast 2500 gallons and still cant get past 100 on the CYA test.
    Draining more water right now.
    Water bill is going to be crazy this month.

    The Pool School is fantastic! I've learned more in a couple weeks than I have in years of trips to the pool store.

    Anyway, Im on my way to a trouble free pool. I took out another 1500 gallons tonight which should total about 4000 gallons the last two days. Should be about 30%.
    Hopefully I will see progress on my CYA test in the morning.
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