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    New pool....first test results

    I broke down and took a sample to a pool store today. I am ordering a test kit tomorrow......just couldn't get things straight with strips.

    FC -4
    TC- 4
    PH- 7.2
    TA- 30
    CYA- 20
    CH- 40
    Salt- 3200


    I have added (3 hrs ago) half of the alkaline adjuster and will add the other half in another hour or so. Is ok to add the liquid CYA stabilizer now?

    Tomorrow he has me adding Hardness Plus.

    When will it be ok to swim? We swam yesterday and my son's eyes burned terribly!!

    Thanks!

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    Re: New pool....first test results

    You dont need Hardness increaser at all. You have a vinyl pool.

    The eye burning is most likely due to a PH issue. With TA super low like that PH can bounce around a bit. PH 7.2 is pretty low so there may be some testing error there too. If the PH is lower than 7 it can be uncomfortable.

    I'd wait until your test kit comes before adding too much stuff. Those pool store CYA tests can be wildly off. If you know the history of your water and know your CYA is low than go ahead and add some now.

    The only hang up I see to swimming is the PH. The PH test is readily available and inexpensive (the red drops).
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    Re: New pool....first test results

    The strips were also showing the CYA as low, but of course I don't know the numbers. I have I red drop test from Walmart. I will check it in a few.

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    Re: New pool....first test results

    In the short term running CYA lowish is no big deal. You loose a little extra FC to sunlight for few days. You dont however want CYA 0 - the chlorine is totally unbuffered in that case.

    Is the pool a new fill? If it is and you haven't added CYA or Trichlor, etc then your CYA is 0. If that is the case - add enough CYA to bring it up to 40 or so now - with the thought to bring it up a little more when you have a proper test kit.

    Post a new PH test when you can. It'll help get a sense if it's bouncing around.
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    Re: New pool....first test results

    The Ph is somewhere close to the "ideal" range. The pink is the closest color to it than any of he others. The pool is a new fill. It isn't "crystal" clear, but it doesn't look bad either. It has a very slight green tint.

    I added probably a fourth of a bottle of CYA liquid stabilizer last night, so yes I have added some.

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    Re: New pool....first test results

    Boy o'Boy the pool store's are hard at work....lol....Money hungry dirt bag's....
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    Re: New pool....first test results

    Got it. Are you familiar with http://www.poolcalculator.com ?

    You can enter in your pool data and see how much stabilizer to add to get to your ideal range. Do you know how many ounces your bottle of CYA is?

    If you have a green cloudy tint then you need to shock. Without any CYA in the water the chlorine from your SWG was used up by the sun as quickly as it was generated. This would allow algae to grow - hence the color.

    There are instructions for shocking in pool school. Post if you have any questions.
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    Re: New pool....first test results

    I have spent 3 days reading this board lol. I tried using the pool calculator and still can't make sense of it....yet. I need step by step instructions on how to shock the pool. I have read and read....I want to know exactly how much and what to do.

    I know I sound dumb, I'm sorry I have never dealt with a pool before. I just know that I have a 5 yr old driving me nuts to get in!

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    Re: New pool....first test results

    Quote Originally Posted by kplaster
    Boy o'Boy the pool store's are hard at work....lol....Money hungry dirt bag's....
    Yes, I know that. I had no choice but to have him test it today. I am returning the Hardness Plus since I haven't opened it. The alkalinity up wasn't even as expensive as the big bag of baking soda at Walmart, so I did ok on that one

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    Re: New pool....first test results

    Don't feel dumb. We'll get you there. A pool is a lot like riding a bike - just takes practice.

    Let me know how many ounces your CYA is and I can give you step by step.
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    Re: New pool....first test results

    It is a gallon of CYA.

    I just realized that I have some Shock Plus so I guess I will use that? Do I need to have my SWG off while shocking? Filter on?

    Thanks for all your help!

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    Re: New pool....first test results

    Quote Originally Posted by Valentine
    Quote Originally Posted by kplaster
    Boy o'Boy the pool store's are hard at work....lol....Money hungry dirt bag's....
    Yes, I know that. I had no choice but to have him test it today. I am returning the Hardness Plus since I haven't opened it. The alkalinity up wasn't even as expensive as the big bag of baking soda at Walmart, so I did ok on that one
    Everyone on this board has been sucker'd before ..The thing to realize is with the help on here&study,study pool school over & over you will grasp&have a new great feeling with maintaining your water&make you feel good to show off a little...
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    Re: New pool....first test results

    If you've added 1/4 gallon of CYA that would be approx 20ppm CYA in 5000 gallons.

    That's a great number to start the shocking process.

    The "Super Shock" - does it say "73% calcium hypochlorite" or something like "Sodium Dichloro etc." ? How much do you have?

    Shocking is a process where you elevate your chlorine levels higher than you normally run it. You do this to kill all of the algae growing in the pool. With a CYA of 20 your shock FC level is 10ppm. Currently you can't test this high - so you'll be flying blind a little bit - but your situation doesn't sound bad so let's go for it. Do you have a yellow chlorine drop test (OTO) or just strips?

    1 Gallon of 6% bleach will raise the FC level in your pool by 12ppm
    1 Pound of "73% calcium hypochlorite" will raise the FC by 17ppm

    So you want to raise your FC to around 10ppm - say 3/4 of a gallon of bleach. Wait a few hours and "test". If FC seems lowish add 3/4 of a gallon of bleach and wait a few hours and "test". After awhile you wont see much FC loss because you can't test so well - so then you just go off how the water looks. You should expect the green color to be replaced by grayish cloudy water - this is the algae being killed.

    Keep the pump running 24/7 while you are shocking. Turn the SWG off for now and manually add chlorine - it'll help us determine how quickly your pool is using up the chlorine. Hopefully your test kit will get to you soon as it will help confirm when you are done shocking.
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    Re: New pool....first test results

    It's 58.2% sodium dichlor etc. I have a 2 lb canister. I also have a gallon of bleach.

    I do have the yellow drop test.

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    Re: New pool....first test results

    Dont use the Dichlor right now. It'll raise your CYA - which would mean a higher shock value, and in turn just make it harder to test.

    Since your pool is small and your algae is light - figure it'll take you 10 gallons of bleach to get through the shock. I'm totally guessing - but 6 gallons should last a day or two to start. If you can - put the first gallon in now and plan on hitting the store soon. Keep in mind the large bleach containers are more than a gallon - look at the ounces.

    Confirm the drops say "OTO" on them. They dont bleach out with high chlorine.

    Have you ordered a test kit yet?
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    Re: New pool....first test results

    I am ordering the kit in the morning. I was wrong....it is a 3 qt container of bleach.

    Is it safe to go ahead and put in the rest of the alkalinity up?

    The drops are OTO.

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    Re: New pool....first test results

    I'd wait on the rest of the alk up. Your pool is pretty small and typically the pool store advice is a little high on the TA.

    So for now it's just bleach. Once the algae issue is taken care of we can balance the rest - it's low priority.
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