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    "BBB" is a misnomer

    I put some Borax in my pool this week, and realized that I hardly, hardly ever put Borax in my pool. I put muriatic acid in far more frequently than I do Borax. Has this been your experience? If so, I think the method needs a new abbreviation. Something like "BM method".
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    Re: "BBB" is a misnomer

    I personally don't want anything with the initals "BM" going into my pool!!!

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    Re: "BBB" is a misnomer

    When I see "BM", I think Bowel Movement. Don't think I want to associate that with a clean swimming pool!
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    Re: "BBB" is a misnomer

    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieH
    I personally don't want anything with the initals "BM" going into my pool!!!

    Ah, maybe you think the same thing as I do when you see BM!
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    No.. The "BM" method would never work... It requires way too much chlorine.
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    Re: "BBB" is a misnomer

    So I have to ask you Elk, was that intentional?
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    Re: "BBB" is a misnomer

    Well yes but the fact remains I put muriatic acid in my pool more frequently than either baking soda or Borax.
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    I poured 35 boxes of Borax in mine, but all at once.
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    Re: "BBB" is a misnomer

    I've never added Baking Soda to my pool. Nor Borates. Nor Calcium. Golden State Water Company provides me with all the Calcium and alkalinity I need. And more!
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    Re: "BBB" is a misnomer

    Quote Originally Posted by ElkPool
    Well yes but the fact remains I put muriatic acid in my pool more frequently than either baking soda or Borax.
    Same here.
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    Re: "BBB" is a misnomer

    I've been very lucky to have stable water... I seldom go off 7.5 on the ph... usually lower so all I need to do is aerate
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    Re: "BBB" is a misnomer

    Living in the desert and using ground water means high alkiline / high pH. Getting the alkiline desert dust blown into my pool during our nice haboobs also means high alkiline. So I also use acid, and no borates or baking soda.
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    Re: "BBB" is a misnomer

    I'd like to try borates, but I can not get my 2-year-old to stop putting pool water in his mouth! He has slowed down a bit since I switched to saltwater
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    Re: "BBB" is a misnomer

    Quote Originally Posted by guamguy
    I'd like to try borates, but I can not get my 2-year-old to stop putting pool water in his mouth! He has slowed down a bit since I switched to saltwater
    Ah, kids! I was swimming with my 4 year old grandson, and he suddenly said "Yuck! This water tastes horrible!"
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    Re: "BBB" is a misnomer

    I think the concern is more in regards to pets who make the pool their only source of drinking water. In such a case, it could be an issue.

    If a few swallows now and again was actually of major concern I'm certain the powers that be here at TFP would not be recommending it.
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    Re: "BBB" is a misnomer

    This is true. See these posts.
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    Re: "BBB" is a misnomer

    I have never had to use muriatic acid.

    My PH seems to drop when I add liquid chlorine.
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    Re: "BBB" is a misnomer

    Quote Originally Posted by boon4376
    I have never had to use muriatic acid.

    My PH seems to drop when I add liquid chlorine.
    According to this post, you were using one pound of Dichlor per week in your 16,000 gallon pool (I presume in addition to using chlorinating liquid or bleach). Though that would add 4.2 ppm FC and 3.8 ppm CYA, it is also net acidic when accounting for chlorine usage/consumption and is equivalent in its net acidity to 10.6 fluid ounces of full-strength Muriatic Acid (31.45% Hydrochloric Acid). I suspect that once you stop using net acidic chemicals (Trichlor, Dichlor, MPS) you will find that your pH will be stable or tend to rise.
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