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    1st time pool owner. Need heat pump advice.

    I am having a local company install my first pool, they use hayward products just like every other contractor in this area.
    I am interested in a pool heater, however I am not sure which to go with & why. They usually install hayward by default but I have a feeling the rheem products are better.

    Can anyone provide me with their "professional" opinion on what electric pool heater is the best bang for the buck for a 14x28 pool that is 4-5 (shallow to deep) feet deep?

    Any input would be appreciated.

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    Re: 1st time pool owner. Need heat pump advice.

    I usually go the Jandy route. Accessibility of parts, easy to work on, etc.

    Ask yourself 1) how often are you going to heat the pool? 2) How long will you maintain the heated temp? and 3) How fast do you want to heat the water?

    Are you heating a spa or just the pool? If just a pool, and you're in no hurry to heat the water, Hayward Heat Pros are great if you can afford a Heat Pump. In the long run you'll save money. Having to pay that NG/Propane bill every month will get old, quick. Heat pumps work off ambient air temp. They heat the water to 30 degrees above. So if it's 50 at night, the highest the water will heat is to 80 degrees.
    "When your pool is sick, call the doctor, I make house calls"
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    Re: 1st time pool owner. Need heat pump advice.

    I am in florida, so honestly water temp won't be an issue.
    I simply need a heat pump to get the water to 80 degrees range when it hasn't been hot here on a consistent bases.
    I think I may go with the Rheem unit because their warranty doesn't exclude chemical damage.
    I want something that is maintenance free if possible.

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    Re: 1st time pool owner. Need heat pump advice.

    Good point. Being in Florida you can easily (and for not that much $) swim year around with a heat pump. The biggest expense is start up (initial heating). To maintain temp a heat pump will be like adding another refrigerator in your house.
    "When your pool is sick, call the doctor, I make house calls"
    One stop pool shop, I do everything but install them. 9+ years of experience.

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    Re: 1st time pool owner. Need heat pump advice.

    If I have a gas heater now how hard is it to switch to a heat pump

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    Re: 1st time pool owner. Need heat pump advice.

    You should give the guys at Poolheatpumps.com a call. They seem to have great prices and lots of no pressure advice. I am also looking for a heat pump and will probably go with their Solarium 105ti.

    I looked at Jandy but the warranty for the solarium seems much better than most. Even better for you Floridians.
    Sharkline Matrix 15x30x54, Hayward 1hp 2 speed pump, Hayward EC-50 DE Filter, Rome/Solarium 105k Heat Pump, Aquabot Rover Jr - Deceased - looking to replace it

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    Re: 1st time pool owner. Need heat pump advice.

    Keep in mind that even in Florida, up towards J'ville, you're going to have LOW temps. Even through the rest of the state, your heat pump usage will include the need to heat when air temps fall below 50 degrees, which some heat pumps will shut down at. If it's important to have the heated pool when its that cold, you should consider heat and cool models for cold air temperature operation.
    Also, it is VERY important to consider the use of a solar blanket, to help retain the heat you're paying for.
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    Re: 1st time pool owner. Need heat pump advice.

    Heat Siphon is what i have... works great get it shipped to a contractor and get a better price
    17,000 gal inground
    vinyl
    swg
    3hp 8 returns
    heat siphon heat pump

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    Re: 1st time pool owner. Need heat pump advice.

    Sorry to jump on this thread and ask my questions, but probably not good form to start up a whole new thread with exactly the same subject line:

    I have a pool in South West France where the temp gets into the mid 30C (err....Mid 80s - Mid 90s) during the summer months - June, July, August and have relied on the sun to warm up the pool. Sadly this year the weather has been awful with little sun, lots of rain and temperatures around 68-70F, so the pool is currently on the chilly side.

    We are planning on renting the house during the months of May and October so I was thinking of installing a heat pump.

    1) I need something very quiet as that is very much the charm of the house (in the middle of nowhere) - someone suggest a Hayward Summit (which I can get in France)
    2) as it's a salt water pool is there anything I should look out for?
    3) What sort of power consumption does a heat pump use relative to any other household appliance - is this like having a big fridge on?

    Finally, as the prices in France are at least double those in the US, is there anyone reading this who can export to me - and is the installation something that can be done by an accomplished DIY expert...erhem....
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    Pool Pilot Digital
    Hayward Max Flo VS
    Polaris 280
    Vinyl liner
    Sand Filter

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    Re: 1st time pool owner. Need heat pump advice.

    Richard,
    Abatik Piscine is an AquaCal heat pump dealer in France. http://www.piscines-online.com/recherche/aquacal.html
    The Superquite models are the quiestest heat pumps in the market, perfect for what you're looking for. It is 55 db rated, if you're interested (quiter than your circulation pump).
    For a salt water pool, there really isn't anything special you should look for, but a Titanium heat exchanger is most common these days. It is impervious to chemical attack.
    A heat pump will need 220 volts @ 50 amps breaker, more than a refrigerator. It may be less if your pool is indoor, or outdoor and covered.
    Sean Assam - Sean@teamhorner.com
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    AquaCal Heat Pumps www.aquacal.com
    AutoPilot Salt Chlorine Generators www.autopilot.com

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    Re: 1st time pool owner. Need heat pump advice.

    Sean thanks for that information, very helpful.

    It's staggering to think that the USD price for say the SQ120 is approx 3500USD, but if you buy it in France you're talking about 5500 Euros = 8000 USD
    SWG - Exterior
    12x5M
    90,000 Ltrs /24,000US gallons
    Pool Pilot Digital
    Hayward Max Flo VS
    Polaris 280
    Vinyl liner
    Sand Filter

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