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    Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    Neighbor kid pooped in the pool.

    It was barely solid enough to get some of it out with the basket.

    I'm getting ready to shock the pool. My CYA is about 40. How am I supposed to measure a FC of 16? The test kit only goes to 5.

    Do I just use the Pool Calculator and let it do the math?

    Because, The Pool Calculator wants 6 gallons of liquid chlorine.

    Is there a better product to use for the shock? I have tablets, but those won't really shock anything.
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    Re: Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    Shocking is correct. Liquid chlorine is just fine, preferred actually.

    You can do the chlorine test with dilution. Mix one part of pool water with three equal parts of chlorine free water (typically distilled water), do the test on that, and multiply the result by four. It will be much less precise than usual, but close enough for measuring shock level.

    In the long run, you should think about upgrading your test kit.
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    Re: Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    I have the TF100. Am I missing something in the kit?
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    Ah, there are two chlorine tests in a TF100. The OTO chlorine test (drops turn the sample yellow which is compared to a color chart) and the FAS-DPD (or weekly) chlorine test (powder turns the sample pink and drops eventually turn it clear again). It sounds like you haven't noticed the FAS-DPD chlorine test yet. I believe it is called the weekly chlorine test in the instructions.
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    Re: Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    I'll check that out

    How quickly can I add the liquid chlorine? I have the pump running at full speed (3450 rpm). Is 1 gal per hour too much?
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    Re: Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    Just pour slow enough thatthe yellow bleach cloud dissipates in the return stream. Otherwise, pour it all in one after another. You want to get FC UP ASAP.

    The only thing better for shocking is 12.5% pool chlorine, simply because there are fewer jugs.
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    Re: Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    Nightmare - right there with you dude. Spent all day testing, measuring and pouring. Took me close to
    4 gals to get a stable FC. Hopefully it holds tonight and I pass thr overnight loss test.

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    Re: Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    OK, whatever was in there should be dead dead by now.

    I knew I should have tested before that last bottle of chlorine.

    FC - 23-24
    CC - 0
    pH - 8-8.2
    TA - 110-120

    I did a TA test for the first time. Drop #11 made the water clear, drop #12 made it red/pink. Is that a TA of 110 or 120?

    If the FC holds overnight, how long will it take the level to drop below 16? It's going to be sunny and about 90 for the next 3 days, then mid 90s for the next 3 days.
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    Re: Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    Pink is the endpoint on the TA test so 120 is your TA.

    How long the water takes for the FC to drop is not something we can predict because it depends on local factors such as amount of sun on the pool, the environment, the CYA level, and other things.

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    Re: Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    I figured out the problem. The Pool Calculator was set to 6% as the default. I put in 12.5% Oops

    Do you think the calculator is accurate enough to calculate the actual gallons based on the amount I put into the pool? I know the starting point and the ending point, and I know how many gallons I used.

    I had the calculator set to 26,000 gal. If the math works the actual pool is closer to 29,000
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    Re: Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    The calculator works out to my volume correctly or CL. pH is a bit off probably due to the error with color matching so I've learned to go no more than 75% of the calculator's recommendations for acid.
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    Re: Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare
    I'm getting ready to shock the pool. My CYA is about 40. How am I supposed to measure a FC of 16? The test kit only goes to 5.

    Do I just use the Pool Calculator and let it do the math?

    Yes, use the pool calc. If your test strip gives you an accurate reading at ~1-5 use the pool calc to go from there. Thats what I did, and I successfully shocked my pool to clarity while I wait for my test kit. Shock at night and your chlorine will be more effective. Using a majority of your chlorine in the morning will be wasted on the sun.
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    Re: Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    OK, guess it isn't dead yet

    FC last night at 9:30 pm was 49 drops (24.5)

    Does difused sun light burn off the chlorine, or only direct sunlight?

    I got up a little late this morning. The the sun was up, but not on the pool yet. I took the sample and left it in the bathroom for about 2 hours. The curtain was closed, but the sun lights up the bathroom in the morning.

    I just tested the sample and it was 38 drops (19)
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    You don't know if you passed or not. Just leaving the sample that long will have an effect.
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    Re: Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    I tested the water again just now. It is much lower than last night.

    FC - 35 drops (17.5)
    CC - 1 drop (.5)

    I'll run the overnight test again tonight.

    On the up side; the water is very clear
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    Re: Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    I went to the pool store to pick up some more chlorine.

    They have a very differnet poop protocol:

    Get the FC to 50 ppm
    Don't let the level drop below 2 (that seems way too low)
    No swimming for a week

    They had some print out. It didn't look like this CDC one:

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    Re: Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    Hmm, FC level is down to about 4. Should I bring it back up to 16?
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    Re: Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    Yes, until you pass the OCLT.
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    Re: Ugh. Poop in the Pool

    OK, everything looks ok now.

    I overdosed on the chlorine again.

    The Pool shop showed a FC of 7. I did 1/2 water + 1/2 pool water and I came up with about the same.

    I put 3 more gallons of chlorine in last night. The FC went up to 29ppm

    I tested again this morning and it was actually 30ppm

    CC is something less than .5 (the water was just the slightest shade of pink after the 5 drops).

    Now I just hope it can burn down to a good level by the weekend.

    One other item of note. The computer put my CYA at 62, so I guess it is a good thing I hit higher numbers on the chlorine.
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