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    Pool Valet experience?

    I'm nearing completion of a rehab of a long neglected pool (came w/ the new home). I cannot know the exact age of the pool, but I would guess about 25 yrs. Job started with replacement of all mechanicals on the pad, and thanks to mission creep has included resurrecting the floor cleaning system. As the subject line indicates it's a Pool Valet infloor system that was painted over some time ago.
    Much drilling, chiseling and cursing later, the old floor nozzles were removed with minimal damage to the cups in the floor, lines back to the valve cleaned, and new nozzles installed.
    My question is this: How does one decide to drill, or not drill the optional holes provided in the new nozzles? All the new nozzles are supplied drilled on one side and also have blind holes on the opposite side. Drill or no? What decides?

    Thanks for any ideas. Pete
    Inground free form, 26,000 gal, tired paint over plaster, Intelliflo VF pump,
    Targus TA100D sand filter, Pool Valet infloor cleaning

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    Re: Pool Valet experience?

    Pete, welcome to the Forum!

    Quite the project you have going there. Any photos of the destruction and re-build?

    Each hole on the pool valet is either 1/4 inch or 3/8 inch. The nozzle comes with 4 partial holes in it. Only one or two are drilled out all the way. The nozzle can be ordered as a blank and it is left to the installer to drill out the proper holes.

    These websites should help, too:

    http://www.infloorpoolparts.com/pool-va ... ozzl2.html

    http://www.paramountpoolproducts.com/faq/pv.php

    Good luck with the project.
    22,000 gallons "L" shaped with spillway spa; Hayward 4820 DE; IG Vinyl; 2000 ppm salt; 50 ppm Borates; liquid chlorine; Polaris w/ booster; TF-100 Test Kit w/SpeedStir

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    Re: Pool Valet experience?

    Thanks Voodoo for your suggestions.

    Yes, quite the job - since the end of last swim season - but there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
    Sure, I'd like to post some pics, if i can figure out how best to do it. In any event it would be several days. If you remember, check in a few.

    again thanks, Pete
    Inground free form, 26,000 gal, tired paint over plaster, Intelliflo VF pump,
    Targus TA100D sand filter, Pool Valet infloor cleaning

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    Re: Pool Valet experience?

    Pete,

    Give this thread a read about posting pictures: how-do-you-post-pictures-t65.html

    "See" ya in a few!
    22,000 gallons "L" shaped with spillway spa; Hayward 4820 DE; IG Vinyl; 2000 ppm salt; 50 ppm Borates; liquid chlorine; Polaris w/ booster; TF-100 Test Kit w/SpeedStir

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    Re: Pool Valet experience? (answered by Paramount)

    I'll check it out Voodoo. Thanks

    I'm taking the liberty of copying the prompt reply I received from Paramount. Hope it's useful to someone else!
    I'm thankful for all the help this forum has been educating me about all things pool. And I hate the water! : )

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    Each 3/8 inch hole is designed to put out 10 gpm. The system is designed to operate at either 40 gpm (a small pool with very few heads, no more than two that come up at the same time on the floor circuits) or 60 gpm (larger pool with three or 4 nozzles that come up per circuit) drilling out a third hole will only reduce the cleaning distance of the nozzles. For example a circuit with three nozzles on the floor would be two each 3/8 inch holes on the same side (the over under design makes the nozzle clean to the six foot radius it was designed for) if four nozzles were on a floor circuit two would be two holes and two would be 1 hole drilled out. The two hole nozzles would always be in the hardest to clean areas (corners and walls). Steps if the pool has nozzles still must conform to the gallons per circuit described above. The very small hole on the nozzle is for a very small top step only and it cleans a two ft radius and is rated at 4 gpm.

    James Serkland
    Technical Support Manager
    Paramount Pool and Spa Systems
    Phone 480-893-7607
    800-621-5886 x 235
    www.1paramount.com
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    Inground free form, 26,000 gal, tired paint over plaster, Intelliflo VF pump,
    Targus TA100D sand filter, Pool Valet infloor cleaning

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    Re: Pool Valet experience?

    Jim at Paramount is a very good resource and has always given me great advice. If more people actually setup their in floor cleaning systems like they were designed, they would love them. Our system has run flawlessly for 3 years now, in large part to what Jim told me. Our pool builder had not put the proper size nozzles in, even though the plan from Paramount clearing showed the right sized heads. After talking with Jim, I went out to my equipment and mapped out what the PSI was for each zone and compared it to the plan. After that, the system cleans flawlessly. It great to not have to mess with a polaris type cleaner. Keep at it. You're on the right track.
    20,000 gallon gunite pool, attached spa, Pebblesheen finish, Paramount PCC-2000 infloor cleaning system, Paramount ClearO3 ozone system, Intelliflo VS main pump, Whisperflo 1HP cleaner pump, StaRite cartridge filter, StaRite heater

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    Re: Pool Valet experience?

    As an addendum to the above advice from Jim at Paramount, he says that it is specific to the Pool Valet system.
    Inground free form, 26,000 gal, tired paint over plaster, Intelliflo VF pump,
    Targus TA100D sand filter, Pool Valet infloor cleaning

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