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    Bubbles in Pump basket area - Hayward Super Pump 1HP

    Hey all, this is my first post here, so thanks in advance for any advice and information given to this pool noob.

    I just got a new Hayward 1HP Super Pump to replace my existing 3/4hp Hayward pump.

    I had to hook up the pump in an 'interesting' manor to get everything to fit right.

    The lady at the pool store warned me REPEATEDLY about having air bubbles in the basket area (intake area) of this pump and how this could cause serious issues.

    I hooked it up, wrenched the fittings in TIGHT, and began using the pump.

    I notice small bubbles in that area - most the size of soda bubbles in a glass (some a little larger) - but no POCKETS of air. The basket/intake area is 99% full of water.

    Is this something to worry about?

    Also - the pump makes a continuous noise while pumping, but if I listen closely, I hear a faint wah-wah-wah oscillation noise. Is this normal as well?

    Any tips are GREATLY appreciated - I just got a new liner put into this in-ground pool, and I want to make sure everything goes RIGHT!

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    Re: Bubbles in Pump basket area - Hayward Super Pump 1HP

    Did you lube the strainer basket o-ring?

    You can run water over the suction piping and equipment with it running and see if the bubbles quit.

    Some pictures of the installation would help too.
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    Re: Bubbles in Pump basket area - Hayward Super Pump 1HP

    Welcome to TFP!!

    Little bubbles like that aren't a problem They oughtn't be there, but they won't hurt anything, just be sure to check every couple of days to see if it get's worse. If it gets worse, let us know (and try the water trick Bama mentioned).
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    Re: Bubbles in Pump basket area - Hayward Super Pump 1HP

    The fittings AND tube I was using were not correct. I rectified the situation by having a gentleman from a local pool store throw together a correct setup. And this time I used the plumbers tape on the threads. No bubbles!

    Now I have a few more questions... heh

    1st: I got a Zodiac G2 pool cleaner at the same time I got the pump. When I hook up the pool cleaner, it works and suctions/vibrates itself - but when I use it, I notice lots more air bubbles in the pump. Is this normal with pool cleaners?

    2nd: I just got my chems in the right place, but the chlorine was on the low side and I wanted to add more. I got the hardness and stabilizer in the right place - so the question is: will adding more chlorine now affect the hardness and stabilizer?

    Finally: I dont want to run my pump 24/7 - but I am curious as to which time of the day is better to run it: day or night?

    Sorry for all the super-noob questions!

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    Re: Bubbles in Pump basket area - Hayward Super Pump 1HP

    1) A sucion side pool cleaner increases your suction head so it will cause the pump to suck harder and therefore exploit any small air leak you may have. It might even be the vacuum hose or plate.

    2) Adding chlorine will not affect the hardness or CYA at all.

    3) If you're manually chlorinating it once a day it doesn't matter when you run it. I automatically injec mine so I run it in several intervals on a timer.
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    Re: Bubbles in Pump basket area - Hayward Super Pump 1HP

    Thanks for the quick reply!

    I guess what I am getting at with running the pump is this: How long each day should I run the pump?

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    Re: Bubbles in Pump basket area - Hayward Super Pump 1HP

    There's an article in pool school that explains how to determine pump run time. Basically it's run it less and less until it's not keeping it clear anymore then bump it back up a bit.
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    Re: Bubbles in Pump basket area - Hayward Super Pump 1HP

    I will read pool school - I need it.

    One last thing - the Zodiac cleaner suggested that I have all of my jets facing the bottom of the pool. Is this something that is recommended?

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    Re: Bubbles in Pump basket area - Hayward Super Pump 1HP

    It's something a lot of pool companies recommend, but that doesn't mean it's right

    With your auto cleaner, the low water in the pool is being moved around (they say to point them down to help the water interchange at the lower levels of the pool). Pointing them slightly up helps make the surface circulation force anything that falls in the pool into the skimmers, and tehn you don't need to use the auto vac as often.
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    Re: Bubbles in Pump basket area - Hayward Super Pump 1HP

    Lordx2: I just read your post as I am in the exact same position. My old 3/4 hp pump finally gave up the ghost after 20 years. I just replaced it with a new Hayward 1 hp pump. It runs like a champ (about 5-7 psi more than the old pump!). BUT, I too have the air bubbles. AND, when I turn the valve to full skimmer to vacuum, it really starts to suck air. I wonder if my input union has air coming in around it? Thanks for the post!
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