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    Question about CYA

    So I have read in many different areas on here that CYA is never used up... the only way to get rid of it is to drain the pool or reverse osmosis.

    I am wondering then how my CYA has gone from 68 to 16 in the past week. All I have done is shock the pool to kill algae.

    Any ideas?
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    Re: Question about CYA

    Those numbers tell me you are most likely using an unreliable method of measuring CYA.
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    Re: Question about CYA

    CYA does occasionally go away over the winter, or even more rarely when you have a major algae problem. It can also go away if you are doing water replacement for some reason.
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    Re: Question about CYA

    These numbers are coming from the pool store. They use a computer system to test the water. I did not replace ANY water or add any water during this time. I did have a bad algae problem I was dealing with and had to use LOTS of chlorine to deal with it. Used granular to start but the switched to liquid because it was easier. I am back to using my 3" tabs in my chlorinator and I will retest the CYA in a week to see if I need to add stabilizer. I just think its odd that it dropped like that when I keep reading that it never goes away...
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    Re: Question about CYA

    Quote Originally Posted by LisaM
    These numbers are coming from the pool store.
    That is your answer. They are notoriously inconsistent.
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    Re: Question about CYA

    What John said...always trust yourself...get a good test kit...like the TF100 and go to it. If someone tried to tell me my numbers were wrong I would laugh in their face. because of TFP I have gotten to the point I can look at my water and know whether things are good or not. Get a test kit that has the FAS-DPD test, pH, Total Alkalinity, CYA and Calcium hardness...Read the instructions and trust in yourself.

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    Re: Question about CYA

    Those numbers tell me you are most likely using an unreliable method of measuring CYA.
    That is your answer. They are notoriously inconsistent.
    Robbie and John have it pegged. Anyone would think the "Pool Store" would be the expert place to go but, sadly, it is frequently the opposite.
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    Re: Question about CYA

    Excuse me for being the skeptic, but from reading many threads about pool stores and also dealing with a VERY dishonest PB, perhaps the store has a computer built to make the CYA go down. After the readings come out, the suggestion is to buy 10 lbs of CYA. Now think about it. The cost of the CYA is probably getting close to the cost of the TFT100 test kit. Buy the test kit and the next time you have to go to the pool store, you can tell them exactly what and how much you need. For kicks, you can have them test your water. The smarter you get, the less costly it becomes.
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    Re: Question about CYA

    Quote Originally Posted by XsAllOverIt
    Excuse me for being the skeptic, but from reading many threads about pool stores and also dealing with a VERY dishonest PB, perhaps the store has a computer built to make the CYA go down. After the readings come out, the suggestion is to buy 10 lbs of CYA. Now think about it. The cost of the CYA is probably getting close to the cost of the TFT100 test kit. Buy the test kit and the next time you have to go to the pool store, you can tell them exactly what and how much you need. For kicks, you can have them test your water. The smarter you get, the less costly it becomes.
    When I walk into my pool store...they don't even bum rush me anymore...they know I am only there to buy liquid chlorine and nothing else...two cases less than $21 bucks that is $2.63 a bottle of 12.5 percent chlorine. They really don't like it when I tell the person who just walked up to the counter with $180 worth of chemicals that they don't need all of that. I have been politely asked to leave!
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    Re: Question about CYA

    WOW you guys have encountered some really dishonest pool stores. I guess I am lucky. I have never encountered this type of thing. In fact they did not even suggest I buy CYA after that low reading. They actually are pretty conservative but it is a small mom and pop type store not a big chain so maybe that is why.
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    Re: Question about CYA

    Quote Originally Posted by LisaM
    WOW you guys have encountered some really dishonest pool stores. I guess I am lucky. I have never encountered this type of thing. In fact they did not even suggest I buy CYA after that low reading. They actually are pretty conservative but it is a small mom and pop type store not a big chain so maybe that is why.

    Actually my pool store has been great. I go to The Great Escape by my home. They have been great about the pool equipment. On day 2 my pump exploded...they gave me a brand new one no questions asked...The ladder system they sold me was supposed to meet all area codes. It did not...they gave me the ladder that met code (which was $100 more) for nothing. They have even at times just given me the little plastic C clips that hold the pump basket to the pump for nothing as well. I am always breaking those litte things. But they don't know much about pool care, Which I think is a problem.
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