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    NorCal Man Cave

    First of all, i have to say that this is a great site that you guys at TFP having going on here! I learned a lot about safety, asthetics, and construction here.

    After reading and researching for a few months now, I think Im ready to jump in. I Just designed what I think my outdoor kitchen will look like using Google sketch, and i'm pretty happy with the look of everything.

    I bought a FireMagic Echelon 660i with matching dual side burner, fridge, and 3 sets of doors to match. Got it out the door at BBQGalore for $6k (talked them down from $8k), unfortunately it has been sitting my garage for the last 9months collecting dust.

    I started somewhat last year removing a huge planter box, laid some concrete, put up a pergola, ran electrical, water and 1" gas line from that I T'd off my pool heater line. I increased the pipe from 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 to allow for spa, fireplace, and some grilling to happen all at once since it's a fairly long run 70ft for gas

    So here are my first pass the dimensions and layout, it's pretty much to scale, I live in California so backyards are fairly small. Let me know your thoughts. I'll post more pics as I progress.

    My first question is how to handle the 1.5" slope. I've reading folks using Trex, Trex+ leveling feet, go with the slope.etc. I think i want it level, b/c when i'm in the pool I will see it is off and it will bug me. I figure it will be 36" on one end and 37 1/2 on the other to compensate for the slope. I'll be using multiple TREX pieces with composite shims for the middle. Sound right?

    Also I see that some folks don't put backer board underneath, is that a personal preference, or dees it have some structual relevance. Thanks again!!
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    Re: NorCal Man Cave

    Wow, looks great however I would suggest putting some sort of solid cover so that you can enjoy when it is raining.
    6,000 gal, IG free form,Beach Series Antigua by Marbletite Pebble finish,Sheer Descent, IG Fountain, Dolphin / Mermaid Statues,Dura- Glas 1.5hp pump,Hayward Pro-grid DE4820, Aqua Rite SWG with T-Cell 15,Heat Siphon Heat Pump DX 5.0 109,000 btu, Pool Cage, 1800sq ft Tremron Estate Pavers,Aquatherm Ecosun Solar Panels 192 sq ft with GL-235 Controller,Pentair IntelliBrite, Apollo Magnetic Stirrer Our New Poolbuild, Jacksonville, FL yr 2009 Solar install Outdoor kitchen upgrade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brentr
    Wow, looks great however I would suggest putting some sort of solid cover so that you can enjoy when it is raining.
    Thanks Brentr, i have a 80% sunscreen doubled up that i bought from Lowes, it works great to allow for some light and if it rains it keeps it somewhat to a minimum. Fully covered patios in Cali requires a permit and I wanted to be able to remove the shade if needed.
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    Re: NorCal Man Cave

    Any more progresss before winter sets in?? Curious to see how its coming along.
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    After coming to the realization that I just don't have the time to get this darn thing started with metal framing (My Son started to think it was a jungle gym. ) and hardy backer board etc, with only 1 day a week available to me. I returned everything back to Home Depot (After 18months)
    I stumbled upon some precast concrete building blocks from Eldorado Stone while looking at some veneer stone for my pool. They were 25% off and I needed their fireplace because permanent fireplaces in my area require it to be 24" from the fence line which would seriously cut into my dinning space. This "portable fireplace" will be 1" from the fence giving me back precious real-estate. I bought 16 of concrete cabinets for $2k and had them up in a few hours. Took longer to uncrate the **** things!
    Got some pavers put in the last year, and now focusing on my pool remodel, but i'll post some more pics up when i really start cranking on this!!

    It still need a lot of custom work done to the kitchen, e.g. back splash, bar, lighting, but for now, I feel like I can now get started and not worried about my kids getting into my work and hurting themselves doing the other way.

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    Here's a pic of my son now helping me level it. He's says "Thanks dad build buying me my new tunnels" .These things are freaking solid, took me a while to cut out 1 of the doors, but I figured out a way to make perfect shims using my table saw and trex board, cutting it long ways on the edge of the trex gives me perfect lengths and height I need. I'll post more pics as I wrap up the pool and paving work.
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    I'd thought I'd share my progress for 2013, it's been slow because I work on it about 2-3 times a month during the weekends and we had a baby in between. I'm finally finishing up after 3 years of planning and chugging away. I finally see the light at the end of the tunnel. [attachment=2:1nslh6bs]7.JPG[/attachment:1nslh6bs][attachment=1:1nslh6bs]8.PNG[/attachment:1nslh6bs][attachment=0:1nslh6bs]6.JPG[/attachment:1nslh6bs]
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    Here's some more of my outdoor kitchen build.[attachment=2:3nbxwizd]2.JPG[/attachment:3nbxwizd][attachment=1:3nbxwizd]3.JPG[/attachment:3nbxwizd][attachment=0:3nbxwizd]4.JPG[/attachment:3nbxwizd]
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    20k Inground StoneScape mini pebble Tahoe Blue pool/spa combo. Intellifow VS 3050 / Intellitouch Control Panel 4 circuit / Pentair 24" Water Fall feature / Pentair Cartridge filter / Solar / Raypack 400k Gas Heater / Starite Max E 1.5 HP jaccuzi Pump / Sta rite Booster pump / Polaris 380. Click Here to see Outdoor Kitchen Fireplace Build

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    Re: NorCal Man Cave

    Impressive! Keep it up..and there's no reason to get in any hurry with the build
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    Great pics. Congrats on the new born
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    Thanks Guys! Yeah not rushing really helps me think of more stuff to add into the build. After the years with family and friends come by and say..."you know what you should add out here"

    For example, I added this cool little battery grill igniter for my fireplace. You turn on the gas and hit the button behind the fireplace and bam..you have fire. Didn't want to spend the $$ for a remote lighting system and didn't want to burn my hairs off my arms with a lighter. This was a good compromise that cost about $20.[attachment=2:2exuetl1]10.JPG[/attachment:2exuetl1][attachment=1:2exuetl1]12.JPG[/attachment:2exuetl1]


    Also hanging the cast concrete crown molding...these things way about 40lbs each. Was a little worried with the provided brackets since they were not long enough and feared it may fall on someone, so I bought some heavy gauge galvanized brackets, epoxied and screwed (concrete screws) them into the crown so I can have piece of mind I won't have a lawsuit on my hands one day. They are also glued to the face of the cinder block using the Simpson Strong Tie anchoring epoxy. I have some 4x4 pressure treated wood blocks cemented in the top of the square holes of the cinder blocks to provide a place to screw into. once everything is in place, I'll put some flashing on top to keep it from the elements.[attachment=0:2exuetl1]11.JPG[/attachment:2exuetl1]
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    Beautiful set up! Congrats on the newborn! Best thing since sliced bread...

    Y'all will have years of enjoyment from your hard work!!!
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    Testing to see if this is still working?
    20k Inground StoneScape mini pebble Tahoe Blue pool/spa combo. Intellifow VS 3050 / Intellitouch Control Panel 4 circuit / Pentair 24" Water Fall feature / Pentair Cartridge filter / Solar / Raypack 400k Gas Heater / Starite Max E 1.5 HP jaccuzi Pump / Sta rite Booster pump / Polaris 380. Click Here to see Outdoor Kitchen Fireplace Build

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    Re: NorCal Man Cave

    With the new software, you may not be able to have so many attached images. You need to host them elsewhere: How To Post Pictures
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    Ahh thanks..no wonder it would not let me upload. I'll create an account and setup post some new pics..
    20k Inground StoneScape mini pebble Tahoe Blue pool/spa combo. Intellifow VS 3050 / Intellitouch Control Panel 4 circuit / Pentair 24" Water Fall feature / Pentair Cartridge filter / Solar / Raypack 400k Gas Heater / Starite Max E 1.5 HP jaccuzi Pump / Sta rite Booster pump / Polaris 380. Click Here to see Outdoor Kitchen Fireplace Build

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    Thought I'd update you on some of my progress. I think I'll finish this year . Finally got the Kitchen part done (needed it for my daughters 1st Bday party). Got carried away and spent a lot of time hooking up and hiding all my cabling for my Definitive Tech outdoor speakers, sub woofer and PZT security Cam on the Pergola. Just got to work on the final stretch for the Fireplace.

    Backsplash Tiling





    TV Insert





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    Granite Install












    AV Cabinet ( I ran USB, Ethernet, HDMI, and 3.5mm phono jack to a box next to the counter top)





    20k Inground StoneScape mini pebble Tahoe Blue pool/spa combo. Intellifow VS 3050 / Intellitouch Control Panel 4 circuit / Pentair 24" Water Fall feature / Pentair Cartridge filter / Solar / Raypack 400k Gas Heater / Starite Max E 1.5 HP jaccuzi Pump / Sta rite Booster pump / Polaris 380. Click Here to see Outdoor Kitchen Fireplace Build

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    That is straight up awesome and inspiring! Good luck with it all.
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    Thanks jfgreco...I was inspired by the designs here! Here's some photo's of the official breaking-in-of the Outdoor kitchen and my Daughter's bday!!!











    And finally...
    20k Inground StoneScape mini pebble Tahoe Blue pool/spa combo. Intellifow VS 3050 / Intellitouch Control Panel 4 circuit / Pentair 24" Water Fall feature / Pentair Cartridge filter / Solar / Raypack 400k Gas Heater / Starite Max E 1.5 HP jaccuzi Pump / Sta rite Booster pump / Polaris 380. Click Here to see Outdoor Kitchen Fireplace Build

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    That looks awesome!!! Great job.


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