Become a TFP Supporter Pool Math Forum Rules Pool School
Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: Having 7 position multi valve isses, please help...

  1. Back To Top    #1

    Having 7 position multi valve isses, please help...

    I was having water leaking out the backwash hose when the valve was set to filter. Not knowing what the issue was i took the 6 - 8 bolts out of the top to have a look and even removed the pin, handle and spring. I then noticed that my "spider" gasket looked worn. I put everything back together and stored for the winter. This past weekend i stopped by my pool store and bought a new spider gasket and lube, went home and replaced the gasket. However when i bolted the assembly on it seems to compress the spring (the handle is completely loose), as if there is no room inside for the spring and valve to lift and turn. There is still water coming from the backwash. Could i have put something back together wrong or are some gaskets thicker than others? As i loosen the bolts the handle seems to go back into place, very confused right now, please help. I need to know whether to buy another multi-valve unit or if mine is fixable. Is it possible that i put the spring and assembly on wrong.

    Also if i do need to buy a new one are they universal? i currently have a proline sand filter but the multi-valve does not appear to have a model number that i can tell.

    Chris
    20 X 40 inground gunite. 38,000 gallons, Jacuzzi Dial Valve Sand Filter, Jacuzzi Magnum 1000 pump. 40 + yrs in (fairly smooth) operation thanks to cussedness and a tiny bit of hydraulic cement.

  2. Back To Top    #2

    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Warner Robins, GA
    Posts
    245

    Re: Having 7 position multi valve isses, please help...

    I just replaced my Hayward variflow valve internals with a prebuilt assembly that I dropped right in after unbolting the top.
    I didint have to replace the spider gasket though.

    Did you check to see if you can find an exploded breakdown drawing? I know that not all the parts are universal- the top mount valve of the variflow has different part numbers for some internal parts then the side mount.
    16 x 32 Grecian Vinyl. Salt-Aqua Plus PS-4, Hayward Pro Series Sand Filter, Hayward Ecostar SP34000vsp, Gulfstream HE-125-T-A Heat/Cool heat Pump

  3. Back To Top    #3
    Mod Squad Bama Rambler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    SouthWest Alabama
    Posts
    22,342

    Re: Having 7 position multi valve isses, please help...

    It sounds like you didn't get everything back together correctly. Did you make sure the spider gasket was pressed into the grooves all the way?
    Dave J. TFP Moderator
    24' x 52" Round AGP. 2hp/¼hp SPL Power-Flo 2-speed pump. 200sqft Waterway Cartridge Filter. 45MHP2(3GPD) Stenner Peristaltic Pump
    Pool School ----- Pool Math ----- TF-Test Kit

  4. Back To Top    #4

    Re: Having 7 position multi valve isses, please help...

    I've been trying to find the exploded drawing but no luck so far, any suggestions where to find.

    When i replaced the spider gasket, my old one came out fairly easy, did not tear or anything. I pushed the new one place without much of an issue either. I don't recall if the gasket was completely pressed all the way into the groves but it was at least 95% pressed in. I was thinking that when i bolted it on that it would fix the last 5%. I realize that if the gasket was not seated properly it could cause the leak out the backwash hose but i am a more concerned at this point in that there is no adjustment in the handle. By that i mean the handle is completely loose, if it is turned to a setting of say filter, the handle does not spring back up to sit in the notch to hold it in place as if the variflow valve has no room to move up and down and is always in the up position.

    When i had it apart i did notice that the handle and spring would get stuck when i pushed the handle down so i lubed the shaft and that fixed the issue.

    I will try and take it all apart again to see if everything looks good, i can take some pictures as well. Does anyone have any pictures of what is should look like in the way of handle direction to varivalve direction?

    Thanks again for all the help,

    Chris
    20 X 40 inground gunite. 38,000 gallons, Jacuzzi Dial Valve Sand Filter, Jacuzzi Magnum 1000 pump. 40 + yrs in (fairly smooth) operation thanks to cussedness and a tiny bit of hydraulic cement.

  5. Back To Top    #5
    NWMNMom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Waaay NW MN
    Posts
    1,582

    Re: Having 7 position multi valve isses, please help...

    Are you sure that there were no items or debris blockung the inlets or outlets on the valve? We had the handle-lever stick this spring and found that there was some debris stuck on the backwash outlet that prevented the valve from fully closing
    18x33x52 Buttressfree Seaspray (Wilbar) AGP - 1.5hp Pentair Maxim w/22" Pentair Meteor Sand Filter, Aqua Rite SWG System, Biltmore Walk In Steps - 2/4x20 Solar Panel Setup - Doheny Jet Drive (RIP -Pool Rover Jr) - finally hard plumbed the whole darned thing -
    Beats Driving to the Lake!

  6. Back To Top    #6

    Re: Having 7 position multi valve isses, please help...

    I will take it apart tonight and see if there is anything that stands out, thanks.
    20 X 40 inground gunite. 38,000 gallons, Jacuzzi Dial Valve Sand Filter, Jacuzzi Magnum 1000 pump. 40 + yrs in (fairly smooth) operation thanks to cussedness and a tiny bit of hydraulic cement.

  7. Back To Top    #7

    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Warner Robins, GA
    Posts
    245

    Re: Having 7 position multi valve isses, please help...

    audi- Is the valve a Proline valve? I know you mentioned the filter being a Proline. Is it top mount or side? i am still looking for an exploded drawing need a bit more info.
    16 x 32 Grecian Vinyl. Salt-Aqua Plus PS-4, Hayward Pro Series Sand Filter, Hayward Ecostar SP34000vsp, Gulfstream HE-125-T-A Heat/Cool heat Pump

  8. Back To Top    #8

    Re: Having 7 position multi valve isses, please help...

    Ok, i took the multivalve off again and took it to my local pool store. What i did find out is this is not a Proline part it is a Waterways 7 position multi-valve unit. What they couldn't tell me is what was wrong. After leaving the store and thinking about it i think i might have narrowed down at least part of the issue. It appears that the handles rounded knobs on the bottom that as you press the handle down is what is touching and pivots on may be worn down. I also noticed that the units in the store had what appears to be a nylon ring for it to pivot on probably to keep it from wearing down, well mine is missing. I was able to find some temporary rubber gaskets that i have used instead of nylon and the handle is much improved and siting more like it should.

    After finding that is was a Waterways unit i was able to find the exploded view: http://www.poolpartsonline.com/p-84300- ... parts.aspx

    I am going to order a new handle and o-ring kit that comes with washer, hopefully it is the washer i need and see how things go.

    Thanks for all the help,

    Chris
    20 X 40 inground gunite. 38,000 gallons, Jacuzzi Dial Valve Sand Filter, Jacuzzi Magnum 1000 pump. 40 + yrs in (fairly smooth) operation thanks to cussedness and a tiny bit of hydraulic cement.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •