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    Just Added Borates

    Followed the instructions in the pool school along with the Pool Calculator iPhone App...couldn't get any easier than that!

    The water seemed to "come alive" after I was done...just needed to add a little more acid than what the Pool Calculator app indicated but other than that perfect!

    Thanks!
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    Re: Just Added Borates

    Posts like this are gonna MAKE me do this!
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    Re: Just Added Borates

    yeah- meant to get borax while getting chicken for the grill- forgot it!
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    Re: Just Added Borates

    I did have to stop by a total of 4 stores and bought all they had (Walmarts & Targets)...

    How long do we all need to wait before swimming though?

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    Re: Just Added Borates

    WOW, your pool looks amazing

    Here's what Jason said in another thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by JasonLion
    Wait at least an hour after the borates addition with the pump running, then test the PH. If the PH is between 7.2 and 7.8 you can swim. After 24 hours, test the PH again before swimming. Regardless of what the PH is now, test it again 48 hours after the borate addition and adjust as needed at that point.
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    Re: Just Added Borates

    Yes, great looking pool- and the planters turned out well! the color offsets the pool vs trees very nice!
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    Re: Just Added Borates

    How much did you pay for your borax? It's $4 for a 76 oz box at Smart and Final stores in LA, I cleaned out one store this weekend and will get the rest of my stash tomorrow.
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    Re: Just Added Borates

    I will be buying the borax tonight. Just called WalMart and they have 20 Mule Team 76 oz. for $2.98.
    I'll be adding this to my pool as soon as I can get my TA somewhere around where it needs to be...(currently around 200 from years of well water top-off)
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    Re: Just Added Borates

    I think I remembered paying somewhere around $4 a couple months ago...
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    Re: Just Added Borates

    Just thought I would report back on having the Borates added a couple weeks ago...

    It hasn't really helped the PH drift because I have the infinity edge, BUT I had to reduce my SWG Chlorine setting by 10% because chlorine is definately not being consumed as fast!!!!
    Pool: 24k, 38' x 19' x 24' Free-form IG Gunite with 24' Infinity Edge and Cantilever coping, SGM Diamond Brite Super Blue Plaster,
    Filter: Hayward C5025 Swim Clear Cartridge Pool Filter - 525 Square Feet
    Main Pool Pump: Hayward TriStar Energy Efficient Pool Pump 1HP - (SP3210EE), Hayward Pool Cleaner Booster Pump - 6060
    Infinity Edge Catch Basin Pump: Hayward TriStar Energy Efficient Pool Pump 3HP - (SP3230EE)
    Automation: Aqua Plus 40K Gallon Chlorination and Control - PL-PLUS (SWG)

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    Re: Just Added Borates

    Adding borates allows you to lower the TA further than you can lower it without borates. If you still have problems with PH rising, try allowing TA to go down to 40 to 50.
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    Re: Just Added Borates




    One of the first things I did after I got the BBB down pat. Everyone that jumps in always says that when they get out their skin doesn't feel dry or "poolish". Makes the wifey happy, which makes me happy.

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    Re: Just Added Borates

    Well, it's been just over a month now since adding borates. While the algae problem I usually encounter throughout the summer is non-existant, in fact I have yet to shock the pool this summer. All the tests come back within the ranges for a SWG pool.

    One thing that has concernced me is that I have a HUGE tiled infinity edge and now when the tiles are dry there is a HUGE white haze on the across all the tiles. Rubbing your finger across them now results in a chalky feel, and no longer slick and smooth. When the water covers the tiles they look normal again, it's only when they are completely dry that the haze returns and it is really noticeable. I'll try and post before and after pictures shortly...

    That's the only thing that has changed the last few months as well...

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    Re: Just Added Borates

    Post up your latest test results...I'm guessing it may be calcium.
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    Re: Just Added Borates

    FC = 2
    CC = 0
    TC = 2
    pH = 7.6
    T/A = 80
    CH = 270
    CYA = 40
    Temp = 94 degrees
    Salt = 3400
    Borates = ~45
    CSI = -0.19

    Test taken at 7:45pm...

    I'll submit pictures shortly...
    Pool: 24k, 38' x 19' x 24' Free-form IG Gunite with 24' Infinity Edge and Cantilever coping, SGM Diamond Brite Super Blue Plaster,
    Filter: Hayward C5025 Swim Clear Cartridge Pool Filter - 525 Square Feet
    Main Pool Pump: Hayward TriStar Energy Efficient Pool Pump 1HP - (SP3210EE), Hayward Pool Cleaner Booster Pump - 6060
    Infinity Edge Catch Basin Pump: Hayward TriStar Energy Efficient Pool Pump 3HP - (SP3230EE)
    Automation: Aqua Plus 40K Gallon Chlorination and Control - PL-PLUS (SWG)

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