Become a TFP Supporter Pool Math Forum Rules Pool School
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 29

Thread: Pool friendly trees

  1. Back To Top    #1

    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Coastalish 'down easter'
    Posts
    4,160

    Pool friendly trees

    Hey all

    As some of you may know, I left the industry to care for 6 pools in S.E. Maine. They installed 5 ~40 X40" X30" deep planters in the area near the 2 most popular of our pools and hot tub and we need to now grow something in them.

    We are looking for a 'tropical' feel. Palm trees wouldn't survive our winters and cost $$$$. I don't want anything that will shed stuff to get in my pools, I have enough trouble trying to keep up with all the %^*)&% pine needles.

    I'd truly appreciate any thoughts or suggestions
    Luv& Luk
    -Ted

    Having done construction and service for 4 pool companies in 4 states starting in 1988, what I know about pools could fill a couple of books - what I don't know could fill a couple of libraries :-D

    POOL SCHOOL, TF Testkits, Jason's Pool Calculator, CYA vs. cl chart, (Just a few DARNED handy links!)

  2. Back To Top    #2

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Charlotte, NC
    Posts
    530

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    Fake ones.
    No lie.

    If they don't go for that, I like those Leelands. Green year round, don't shed, grow fast.

    Ask a local nursery, tell em you you don't want messy sappy junk, leaves that don't shed, etc
    Planters that small, go w bushes, dwarfs !; not trees. bushes that don't loose leaves or evergrreen bushes that do not shed or looses stuff in heavy winds
    19,800 gallons (closed/winter 18,654 gal); plaster; 18x34 Ft kidney bean shape, Depth 3Ft-5Ft. Built 1992
    Pentair Whisper Flow Pump 1HP. Winter safety cover w anchors.
    Sand filter, Pentair Sand Dollar Top Mount Model SD80; Effective Filtration Area 3.5SF
    - FlowRate 75GPM, 8Hr 36,000, 10Hr 45,000, 12Hr 54,000; Pressure Weight 50PSI
    BBB (Hayward Chlorinator when leave town). Polaris 360 cleaner.

  3. Back To Top    #3
    LauleaHere&There's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Rural Moloka'i, Hawai'i
    Posts
    155

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    Not sure how far southeast you are, but http://www.manchestergardenclub.com/.../Tropicals.htm are supposed to be cold hardy to zone 6 and shouldn't shed much. You could consider something evergreen like holly, too. No matter what's in the planters, it will need extra winter protection because a) planters dry out and b) because of their raised profile, they freeze quicker and freeze/thaw during warm spells. Also, planters that size won't hold a full size tree.

    There are some nice junipers designed for containers that you can leave au naturel or prune into topiary.

    Edited to add: There are also some nice cold hardy bamboos. Advantages are: they'll be in containers already, so they'll fill in, but not run where you don't want them. Even if you have some winter dieback, you will likely have enough left after the winter to repopulate your planters again in the spring. Also, bamboos are not deciduous the way trees can be, because they are in the grass family.
    12' round above ground pool. 3,500 gal. Vinyl liner. Waterway Supreme Hi-Flo 48 frame pump. 1.5 hp. SWG. Sand filter with Zeobrite.

    Thanks, members of Trouble Free Pool, for being so friendly and informative!

  4. Back To Top    #4

    In the Industry

    duraleigh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Sebring, Florida
    Posts
    30,085

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    Waste's "location" in his sig is a little misleading.......he's about a zone 1

    In other words, "He ain't from around here!"
    Dave S.
    42k vinyl and concrete pool, 1.5hp pump, 140gpm filter
    TFTestkits , PoolMath , Pool School

  5. Back To Top    #5
    gpgyo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Houston, Texas
    Posts
    28

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    On a recent trip to England's Fylde Coast I was surprised to see palm trees so there are some varieties that can take extreme cold. I don't know what kind they were, though.

  6. Back To Top    #6
    AnnaK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Eastern Pennsylvania
    Posts
    1,134

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    I think I'm going to take my own advice, offered elsewhere, and plant some bamboo in planters. If I can find the bamboo, that is. One of our neighbors has a small grove by the side of the road, more of just a clump, really, and they're very nice to look at. They stayed green all winter, don't seem to drop their leaves, and make a terrific privacy screen.

    Unfortunately, it does appear that the salt truck killed the ones closest to the road. That guy is very enthusiastic about doing his job. He's sprayed salt and gravel a good 6 feet into our lawns . . . all dead now, sigh.
    AnnaK

    12,500 gal AGP, Hayward sand filter, Pentair 2-speed pump, timer.
    Please visit our Pool Issues pages for information about step weights, managing the solar cover, and PoolSkim.

  7. Back To Top    #7

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    I don't have any good suggestions for trees in your zone, unfortunately. I would recommend fake trees if they like the look or you can xeroscape and go for the bare/clean look.
    Clearwater, Florida

    12,000 gallon kidney shaped gunite pool
    Pentair Whisperflo 3/4HP Pump
    Pentair CCP420 420sq/ft Cartridge Filter
    Pentair Intellibrite 5G 120V Pool Light

  8. Back To Top    #8
    LauleaHere&There's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Rural Moloka'i, Hawai'i
    Posts
    155

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    Quote Originally Posted by duraleigh
    Waste's "location" in his sig is a little misleading.......he's about a zone 1

    In other words, "He ain't from around here!"
    Well, if that's the case, then God bless 'im, he should cast his "trees" in bronze.

    All joking aside, sculpted junipers might still be a low maintenance option even in that chilly climate.
    12' round above ground pool. 3,500 gal. Vinyl liner. Waterway Supreme Hi-Flo 48 frame pump. 1.5 hp. SWG. Sand filter with Zeobrite.

    Thanks, members of Trouble Free Pool, for being so friendly and informative!

  9. Back To Top    #9

    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Coastalish 'down easter'
    Posts
    4,160

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    Thanks for the feedback

    I talked with the front desk manager (my wife's sister) this A.M. and found out upper management is opposed to bamboo (apparently they tried it at the lower end of the property and the stuff just spread like wildfire - seems to me that keeping it trimmed, so that it doesn't 'go to seed' would prevent this).

    My SIL called her garden person and was also advised to stay away from bamboo. He told her to go to a certain garden center (that he does business with but, is not associated with) and see what they have, because all their plants will be suitable for our climate.

    The other option tabled was to let 5 of the cottage owners 'take possession' of the planters and put in whatever they want - which I don't like because there wouldn't be uniformity and I know they'd pick the most shedding plants possible.

    Please keep any suggestions coming - I have a strong feeling that, whatever we go with, it's gonna be my responsibility to care for and clean up after these plants
    Luv& Luk
    -Ted

    Having done construction and service for 4 pool companies in 4 states starting in 1988, what I know about pools could fill a couple of books - what I don't know could fill a couple of libraries :-D

    POOL SCHOOL, TF Testkits, Jason's Pool Calculator, CYA vs. cl chart, (Just a few DARNED handy links!)

  10. Back To Top    #10

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Central Massachusetts
    Posts
    2,690

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    Quote Originally Posted by duraleigh
    Waste's "location" in his sig is a little misleading.......he's about a zone 1

    In other words, "He ain't from around here!"
    Actually down east on the coast is about a zone 5 to 4, ay-yhup. Ya cahnt get theyah from he-ah
    14,000 gallon IG, Vinyl. Hayward 3/4 hp superpump, Penatair IC40 SWCG, Pentair automation, Hayward sand filter, Aqua Comfort heat pump, Hayward 400k Lo-Nox LP heater.

  11. Back To Top    #11

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    northern California
    Posts
    235

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    Please keep in mind that even non-deciduous trees shed leaves every now and then. I don't think there is any tree that is totally pool-friendly. When it gets windy, some leaves will be blown off the tree and into your pool. If the tree has flowers, they will go in the pool as well. The only good thing about non-deciduous trees is that their leaves do not drop all at once but they do come down a few at a time pretty much year round.
    IG pebbletec pool: size of pool: 27,000 gal; filter: cartridge - Hayward Superstar Clear; pump size: 1.5 HP; TF 100 Test kit - got it on 7-29-10; The Pool Cleaner-4-wheel suction model; Pool calculator: http://www.poolcalculator.com/; bleach calc: http://troublefreepool.com/files/BleachCalc262.exe

  12. Back To Top    #12
    esim13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Denham Springs, Louisiana
    Posts
    320

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    I'm not an expert but I an avid planter and gardener. I have always been told that bamboo will not spread if it is contained within it's container. If planted in the ground it will spread like crazy. My neighbor has bamboo in two huge pots. I'm talking 4 ft tall by atleast 30in diameter. I have yet to see them spread out of the pots. I'm thinking that maybe the planters you have could contain the bamboo. When they tried them in the front of the property were they contained in a planter of some kind or just planted in the ground? May be something to ask garden center. I was also thinking that you may be able to just get bamboo poles of varying heights and widths to stand in the planters with mulch or rocks around them??? Just a few thoughts....... good luck!
    10,408 gallon, 21' round, 52 in' deep AG, half in ground
    Artesian Clear Master Plus Sand Filter, Artesian Turbo King 2 hp pump, installed June 08
    Denham Springs, Louisiana
    GEAUX TIGERS!
    Pics taken 2012
    http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad25 ... CN0606.jpg
    http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad25 ... CN0607.jpg

  13. Back To Top    #13
    LauleaHere&There's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Rural Moloka'i, Hawai'i
    Posts
    155

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    Bamboo *can* be controlled by lining your containers with heavy-duty plastic. Here's a decent website on the topic:http://www.bamboogarden.com/care.htm

    Some varieties "run" worse than others, and, of course, you'll be limited by cold-hardiness.

    Ever consider an ornamental grass, like pampas? There are lots of 'em out there.

    EDITED TO ADD: Consider contacting your Cooperative Extension. They have tons of information specific to your area. They can help you choose plants that will work and tell you how to care for them. http://umaine.edu/gardening/

    Oh, and could you please let us know what you choose? I'd love to know.
    12' round above ground pool. 3,500 gal. Vinyl liner. Waterway Supreme Hi-Flo 48 frame pump. 1.5 hp. SWG. Sand filter with Zeobrite.

    Thanks, members of Trouble Free Pool, for being so friendly and informative!

  14. Back To Top    #14

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    northern California
    Posts
    235

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    While we are on the subject of bamboo, there is another kind of bamboo callled Heavenly bamboo (Nandina). It is not a real bamboo and it is very invasive. It is an evergreen but once you plant it, I was told that you will never be able to get rid of it. I have the miniature version of it in a flowerbed by the pool. It is pretty and the leaves change colors in the fall/winter. But the leaves do drop into the pool every now and then. Pruning it is kind of a waste of time since it keeps growing back and much fuller.
    IG pebbletec pool: size of pool: 27,000 gal; filter: cartridge - Hayward Superstar Clear; pump size: 1.5 HP; TF 100 Test kit - got it on 7-29-10; The Pool Cleaner-4-wheel suction model; Pool calculator: http://www.poolcalculator.com/; bleach calc: http://troublefreepool.com/files/BleachCalc262.exe

  15. Back To Top    #15

    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Melbourne, FL
    Posts
    136

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    I'd recommend canvassing the neighborhood/local area and see what has worked for others. Perhaps visit a pool builder or two and get some leads on what works?
    Karl

    Freeform 15x31 Pool w/ oversized spa, 1 1/2 HP Blower, Pentair Quad 60 DE Filter, Heliocol solar panels, Pentair Maxitherm 400K BTU heater, Pentair IC40 SWG, Pentair Easytouch 4 w/wireless remote, Pentair IntelliFlow VSP, and Pentair Intellibrite LED Pool/Spa lights.

  16. Back To Top    #16

    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Somewhere on the Emerald Coast
    Posts
    156

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    Ted - Move to Florida! The options are limitless !!!! It's warmer here too !!!!
    20,125 gal. (2,690.6 c.f.) In-Ground / Concrete (Gunite) / Pentair Tagelus TA-60-60D Sand Filter / Pentair Whisper Flo Pump Model WF-24 @ 1HP / Hayward Veri-Flo Valve Model 710 / Taylor FAS-DPD K-2006 test kit / Pool School student

  17. Back To Top    #17
    XsAllOverIt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Mount Airy, Maryland
    Posts
    560

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    Try some of these. I've got 2 that I'm planting shortly. I think you have to do some pretty good winter preparation, but from all I've read, they should do fine in MD...

    http://www.willisorchards.com/product/W ... tegory=335
    18 x 36 Inground Gunnite, White Plaster 21K gallon
    18" raised spa, 8' Diameter (620 gallon)
    Triton II Sand filter, Intellichlor IC40 SWG
    Pentair Pump, Max-E-Therm 400 BTU
    Lamotte ColorQ PRO 7-Plus test kit
    TFT-100 test kit

  18. Back To Top    #18

    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    West Virginia
    Posts
    216

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    I dont know how much work or $$ will be involved, of course, but have you considered just replanting each year? Things like canna and musa basjoo (hardy nonfruiting banana, but wouldnt survive your kind of cold), would be very tropical looking. We also get lots of palm trees here at the local stores (walmart, lowes, home depot, etc) that dont live through the winter, but they are cheap enough that I just buy some every spring and replant them in my pots to keep on my deck. A lot of the tropical foliage plants that stores get each year can survive for the summer outside in a planter, you just have to watch the sun/shade requirements when choosing. You could also use a staple evergreen as a focal point to get some height, and then plant around it with brighter flowers to get a more tropical feel. You could even buy one carved into a topiary shape, to be a little different. Some of those look pretty cool, twisty shapes or pom poms and would also make interesting planters, but would still be hardy and nonshedding, since they are just basic evergreens.
    WV Girl

    Custom "L" shape IG gunite pool, 36K gal., main drain, 2 skimmers, 3 returns, hayward heat pump, hayward 1.5hp pump with booster pump, ozonator, 4 cartridge filter.
    one dear hubby, two waterlogged kids, and lots of good times!

  19. Back To Top    #19
    accidental chemist's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Upstate South Carolina
    Posts
    15

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    "Windmill Fan Palm" It has a hairy trunk. I have seen them growing on the Normandy Coast of France. Check the map, it gets a little nippy there in the winters.
    Why is it most people that work in a pool store know nothing about pool chemistry?
    37,000 gal lined inground, Aquarite SWCG, ORP & pH cont, 30 gal acid tank, and Digital Timer w/ Freeze probe. All integrated with interposing relays to keep pump from shutting down if feeds are running.

  20. Back To Top    #20

    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    SW IL
    Posts
    31

    Re: Pool friendly trees

    hey waste try this website:

    http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/plantinfo.shtml

    It's the missouri botanical garden's website. Click on plantfinder and input characteristics/requirements. Make sure to input your zone to find winter hardy specimen, and just browse the possibilities. FYI full sun means at least 6 hours of sun or more, anything with part sun or part shade will most likely need a break from the hot afternoon sun. (don't want you wasting time or money).
    44,000 True L Vinyl, 1.5hp 2 speed WhisperFlo, 100 sq/ft Quad DE, IC60

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •