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    In floor cleaning system for owner/builder

    Does anyone know if its possible to get in floor cleaning plans like Paramount PCC2000 without going through a dealer? I'm not trying to step on any toes and I understand the benefits of having an experienced, "certified" dealer do the installation. BUT....I was just wondering if it's possible to get Paramount to design the system and I buy the parts online and do the installation myself. Again, I'm not trying to say that it's so easy a caveman can do it. I'm just asking the question!

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    Re: In floor cleaning system for owner/builder

    I dunno. You can buy all the parts easily enough, but it would be a huge pain to install.

    A more pointed question: why bother? I have an in-floor system and wish I did not. For far less money and hassle you can build it normally, buy the best robot on the market, and have a much more effective/efficient cleaner to boot!
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    Re: In floor cleaning system for owner/builder

    The PCCC is typically anly offered to registered builders. Paramount only allows a small number of builders in an area to install the PCCC. I am not sure about their other models.

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    Re: In floor cleaning system for owner/builder

    Welcome to TFP!!

    I used to install the Caretaker (tm) system and agree with MITS on the utility of them. However, you could always go with a few in floor returns to gain the heating and chemical distribution effects
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    Re: In floor cleaning system for owner/builder

    I don't know if you could put it in yourself, but I would highly recommend the PCC-2000 system. We have a two year old pool with the PCC-2000 system and its done a great job keeping the pool clean. The pool stays free of debris and I just dump out skimmer baskets. Its also good for circulating the water, especially when adding chemicals. A good friend has the Paramount Pool Valet and also says it does a great job. I don't know much about other brands of in-floor systems, but in my experience, I would never put in a pool without one.
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    Re: In floor cleaning system for owner/builder

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodberg
    I don't know if you could put it in yourself, but I would highly recommend the PCC-2000 system. We have a two year old pool with the PCC-2000 system and its done a great job keeping the pool clean. The pool stays free of debris and I just dump out skimmer baskets. Its also good for circulating the water, especially when adding chemicals. A good friend has the Paramount Pool Valet and also says it does a great job. I don't know much about other brands of in-floor systems, but in my experience, I would never put in a pool without one.

    This^. We have a Paramount infloorand I love it! Would not build a pool without one. They seem to get a bad rap around here but I love mine.
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    Re: In floor cleaning system for owner/builder

    Every pool I service that has an in-floor cleaning system ONLY, doesn't work worth beans. I bid extra whenever I see one of these. Great circulation, but dead cleaning spots and the need for BIG pumps. What I dislike about them even more, is (on most) this was the ONLY return system put in, so at no point in the future can I plug in a pressure-side sweep. If you don't want to save your money, try http://www.infloorpoolparts.com/.

    I know they work well in a few cases, but I really don't like them... (Can ya tell? ).
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    Re: In floor cleaning system for owner/builder

    Even with an infloor cleaner, you should have a couple regular returns to provide surface circulation to help the skimmers
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