Newer to the forum and started out here with a post asking about an AG pool. After some extensive research and finding out that the taxes on the wrap around wood deck for an 27 foot AG pool would be more than for an IG pool coupled with a bunch of other factors have been swayed to an IG steel vinyl liner pool.
I am caught between a 16x32 and 18x36 both with an 8 foot hopper for small dive board. Any insight on the pros and cons to the amount of shallow versus deep end either of these sizes will permit? I definitely want the deep end. My kids (5 and 7) are already swimming to the bottom of a similar pool and doing flips into it as well. But I also view them wanting to do the volleyball/hoops games as too. I know I’ve heard the saying that no one wished they got a smaller pool.
I am between two PB in my area as they are all basically the same with barely any noticeable cost differences between them (considering the overall cost). So I am now at the point where there might be other differences in what they are actually offering so that is part of my questions.
I am in Western Pennsylvania, so I know that matters for the 3-4 months of pool climate as well as soil. I know I will have some clay and potential rock to deal with when they dig/set.
The recommendation for filter is a Hayward 4820 DE 1hp filter. I’ve asked about 1 ½ HP and even 2 speed like other forum posts have recommended. The PB has indicated to me that 1 ½ would be for 20x40 and they said a 2 speed would burn out. They indicated this would be a 220 line and would be using Schedule 40 2 inch pipe.
Will a DE filter and gas heater be louder than an outside air conditioner? It will be more convenient to install these on the side of the house more exposed to view. Should I push for this to be on the other side of the house although will raise my install cost?
My backyard slopes down away from the house. If I put the filter on the side it will effectively be higher than the pool. To what issue should I be concerned? From the foundation to a couple of feet passed where concrete wrap will be on the far end of the pool the slope of the yard drops about 3 feet (but only 2 feet from where the pool would start to where it would end). Any concern there from using the fill they will excavate for the pool to level out a pad around the pool? How about for setting the posts for the fence since effectively all of that will be new fill at least on the far end away from the house?
I am leaning towards a gas heater vs heat pump. Other forum posts recommend a 400K BTU unit. I may not go that high but I recall in the forum post something changes in the gas installation once you go with or above 250K BTU. Any information on that would be helpful so I can ensure that I could go higher years later.
Recommendation is a 20 mil Merlin liner. Any thoughts there? Any reason to push for a 28 mil?
They will be installing 8x4 foot steps for the shallow end. These are Performance STEPS. Any steps that are better/worse than others?
As for the pool, I know all kits the PB can get will not be the same. Any buzzword for pro or con I should be aware of besides galvanized and them using pool crete for the bottom? Is there a type of coping better or worse? Is there a thickness of steel that would be better than others?
They indicated they would backfill the pool around the walls with the dirt they excavate. Is that common practice or should they be using gravel for the back fill?
Future Signature....
IG 16x32 or 18x36 Steel Vinyl Liner
Hayward 4820 DE filter
Hayward 250K gas heater
Western Pennsylvania
I am caught between a 16x32 and 18x36 both with an 8 foot hopper for small dive board. Any insight on the pros and cons to the amount of shallow versus deep end either of these sizes will permit? I definitely want the deep end. My kids (5 and 7) are already swimming to the bottom of a similar pool and doing flips into it as well. But I also view them wanting to do the volleyball/hoops games as too. I know I’ve heard the saying that no one wished they got a smaller pool.
I am between two PB in my area as they are all basically the same with barely any noticeable cost differences between them (considering the overall cost). So I am now at the point where there might be other differences in what they are actually offering so that is part of my questions.
I am in Western Pennsylvania, so I know that matters for the 3-4 months of pool climate as well as soil. I know I will have some clay and potential rock to deal with when they dig/set.
The recommendation for filter is a Hayward 4820 DE 1hp filter. I’ve asked about 1 ½ HP and even 2 speed like other forum posts have recommended. The PB has indicated to me that 1 ½ would be for 20x40 and they said a 2 speed would burn out. They indicated this would be a 220 line and would be using Schedule 40 2 inch pipe.
Will a DE filter and gas heater be louder than an outside air conditioner? It will be more convenient to install these on the side of the house more exposed to view. Should I push for this to be on the other side of the house although will raise my install cost?
My backyard slopes down away from the house. If I put the filter on the side it will effectively be higher than the pool. To what issue should I be concerned? From the foundation to a couple of feet passed where concrete wrap will be on the far end of the pool the slope of the yard drops about 3 feet (but only 2 feet from where the pool would start to where it would end). Any concern there from using the fill they will excavate for the pool to level out a pad around the pool? How about for setting the posts for the fence since effectively all of that will be new fill at least on the far end away from the house?
I am leaning towards a gas heater vs heat pump. Other forum posts recommend a 400K BTU unit. I may not go that high but I recall in the forum post something changes in the gas installation once you go with or above 250K BTU. Any information on that would be helpful so I can ensure that I could go higher years later.
Recommendation is a 20 mil Merlin liner. Any thoughts there? Any reason to push for a 28 mil?
They will be installing 8x4 foot steps for the shallow end. These are Performance STEPS. Any steps that are better/worse than others?
As for the pool, I know all kits the PB can get will not be the same. Any buzzword for pro or con I should be aware of besides galvanized and them using pool crete for the bottom? Is there a type of coping better or worse? Is there a thickness of steel that would be better than others?
They indicated they would backfill the pool around the walls with the dirt they excavate. Is that common practice or should they be using gravel for the back fill?
Future Signature....
IG 16x32 or 18x36 Steel Vinyl Liner
Hayward 4820 DE filter
Hayward 250K gas heater
Western Pennsylvania