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Thread: Chevy, Dodge, Hayward, Jandy, IECC musings

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    Chevy, Dodge, Hayward, Jandy, IECC musings

    This off topic conversation was split off of Hayward versus Jandy. JasonLion

    Quote Originally Posted by bk406
    What is it with you guys and Hayward? I've got some Hayward equpiment and never had an issue. If the builder stands behind it, it should be fine. It's all basically the same when you get right down to it.
    And I bet you drive a Ford too, right

    Sorry; seems like I might owe you one (and I'm a Chevy guy!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by simicrintz

    Sorry; seems like I might owe you one (and I'm a Chevy guy!)
    Dodge durango and toyota avalon actually
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    Quote Originally Posted by bk406
    Quote Originally Posted by simicrintz

    Sorry; seems like I might owe you one (and I'm a Chevy guy!)
    Dodge durango and toyota avalon actually
    OK; I'll let you slide this time then.....

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    Why thx bruce!
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    Re: Hayward versus Jandy

    For the record, connecticut isn't new england. They just think they are. Its full of yankee fans! We call it newyorkachusetts.

    And to clarify the DE comment. I know 24 people with pools and another 5 on my street and not one DE. My pool guy services over 300 and has les than 10% DE on his route. Maybe I overstated it bt ill stand by my statement that their not that popular in my area.
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    There aren't any DE filters in California!!!

    Just stirrin' the pot.........

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    Whats DE????

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    Whats DE????
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    For the record, connecticut isn't new england. They just think they are. Its full of yankee fans! We call it newyorkachusetts.
    So what do you call Rhode Island - newyorkconnachusetts?

    What's wrong with Yankee fans - they make good target practice when tourists aren't in season


    Bruce - you're in Cali and are talking about stirring the 'pot' - )how else do you get the last bit of goodness out of the bowl)

    Sal entered the conversation, whilst I typed, is 'stirring the pot' what y'all do whilst waiting for the RO process to finish?
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    Re: Hayward versus Jandy

    WOW, TFP is hot tonight!!!!!!

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    Re: Hayward versus Jandy

    I think we've officially veered off topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by simicrintz
    I think we've officially veered off topic
    Yep, a moderator needs to spank us.

    I guess to bring it back to topic, I really agree with Jason. If you like the builder and he has a good rep, the equipment is probably secondary. If he's good, he'll stand behind the equipment. A lot of times the builder who deals in a certain brand will be an authorized service center and can get things done fast, as Waste alluded to.
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    Re: Hayward versus Jandy

    Quote Originally Posted by waste
    Also, federal laws, soon (?) to be implemented in the 50 several states will require 2 speed pumps for motors over 1HP (as well as more efficient plumbing).

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    Can you point me to the source for this? I've googled it and i cant find where this is happening at a federal level. Also the efficient plumbing regs have me curious too. Where can i find the info?
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    Re: Hayward versus Jandy

    Quote Originally Posted by bk406
    Quote Originally Posted by waste
    Also, federal laws, soon (?) to be implemented in the 50 several states will require 2 speed pumps for motors over 1HP (as well as more efficient plumbing).

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    Can you point me to the source for this? I've googled it and i cant find where this is happening at a federal level. Also the efficient plumbing regs have me curious too. Where can i find the info?
    Check out the most recent (last one I see is 2006) INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE.
    (title 20 refers to pool pumps - & it's >= 1 HP ) As I said, it hasn't, as of 2010, been adopted in Ct., but Cali is usually way ahead of the curve on such things - I'd look to them for the first implementation, with the other states signing on, in the usual pattern.


    Doopie, sorry for the digressions in your thread Sometimes this is the way we get together and figure out various issues/ share news. I'm confident I can speak for all who have been involved here in saying that "your question is important to us and we'll do our collective best to get you the answer you need"
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    Re: Hayward versus Jandy

    Ted,
    Its still a state thing. There's no federal statute in the works for any of it.
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    Re: Hayward versus Jandy

    Some federal tax credits are tied to IECC compliance.
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    Re: Hayward versus Jandy

    In CA it is called Title 20 and includes all appliances.

    Pump testing is on page 85.

    Pump requirements are on page 147.
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    Re: Hayward versus Jandy

    Nothing like that in Mass at this point.
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    Re: Hayward versus Jandy

    BK, thats why California is such a wonderful place to live... We have the best weather... What else do we have??? oh ya... Weather!

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    Re: Hayward versus Jandy

    And u guys are more broke than us but not by much.
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