Become a TFP Supporter Pool Math Forum Rules Pool School
Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: Whats the Best Automatic Pump for Winter Cover?

  1. Back To Top    #1

    Whats the Best Automatic Pump for Winter Cover?

    Hi,

    I am looking for the best automatic pump for the top of my solid winter cover. I have a large amount of pine needles due to the Norway Spruces lining the side of the pool (I don't want to cut them down). Also, I live in northern NJ so the water on top (mixed with leaves and debris) freezes. So the pump needs to be able to handle both debris and not get damaged when it freezes. Not the perfect pool location, but its what I have. I've tried to find reviews of pumps but they are mixed. Who here has good experience with a particular pump that would work in my conditions?

    Regards,
    Ken
    20K SWG Pool/Hayward Tristar/Pentair Intellibrite LED

  2. Back To Top    #2

    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    South Central NJ
    Posts
    3,192

    Re: Whats the Best Automatic Pump for Winter Cover?

    This is the make and model I sell to my customers. The web site and I have no affiliation.

    Scott

    http://www.poolproducts.com/SPP/product ... f_id=A5028
    Owner of - PoolGuyNJ LLC
    Expert Pool and Spa Repairs, Renovations, and Augmentation. Helping people decide what is the right gear for meeting their needs. Expectations Set, Expectations Met, No Surprises.

  3. Back To Top    #3
    Mod Squad Bama Rambler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    SouthWest Alabama
    Posts
    22,347

    Re: Whats the Best Automatic Pump for Winter Cover?

    Welcome to TFP.

    I would trust what Scott says. Rule has been making bilge pumps forever and make a good unit.

    You do need to check the unit once in a while to make sure something isn't hanging up the [s:28v6hcqy]float[/s:28v6hcqy] unit.

    Search around for a good price.
    Dave J. TFP Moderator
    24' x 52" Round AGP. 2hp/¼hp SPL Power-Flo 2-speed pump. 200sqft Waterway Cartridge Filter. 45MHP2(3GPD) Stenner Peristaltic Pump
    Pool School ----- Pool Math ----- TF-Test Kit

  4. Back To Top    #4

    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    South Central NJ
    Posts
    3,192

    Re: Whats the Best Automatic Pump for Winter Cover?

    The Rule doesn't have a float. The tests to see if there is water every few minutes. If the current load is increased from normal, it assumes the load is water and stays on. If no increase in current from the known no-load state, it turns itself off.

    Scott
    Owner of - PoolGuyNJ LLC
    Expert Pool and Spa Repairs, Renovations, and Augmentation. Helping people decide what is the right gear for meeting their needs. Expectations Set, Expectations Met, No Surprises.

  5. Back To Top    #5
    Mod Squad Bama Rambler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    SouthWest Alabama
    Posts
    22,347

    Re: Whats the Best Automatic Pump for Winter Cover?

    Thanks for correcting me Scott. I edited my post to say what I really meant.
    Dave J. TFP Moderator
    24' x 52" Round AGP. 2hp/¼hp SPL Power-Flo 2-speed pump. 200sqft Waterway Cartridge Filter. 45MHP2(3GPD) Stenner Peristaltic Pump
    Pool School ----- Pool Math ----- TF-Test Kit

  6. Back To Top    #6

    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    San Rafael, CA USA
    Posts
    12,082

    Re: Whats the Best Automatic Pump for Winter Cover?

    I have a Rule 1800 and it works great. The first version of it I had used a different bottom section that cracked and the pipe nozzle attachment also cracked but instead of replacing the nozzle and fixing it myself, I just got the newer version of the pump and bottom attachment and it's been fine so far. Note that if you get a lot of leaves or other material, the entrances to the pump (i.e. that bottom blue plastic section) can get clogged so you may need to periodically remove such debris for the pump to properly remove water.
    16,000 gallon outdoor in-ground 16'x32' plaster pool; Pentair Intelliflo VF pump; Pentair IntelliTouch i9+3s control system; Jandy CL-340 square foot cartridge filter
    12 Fafco solar panels; Purex Triton PowerMax 250 natural gas heater (200,000 BTU/hr output); automatic electric pool safety cover; 4-wheel pressure-side "The Pool Cleaner"

  7. Back To Top    #7

    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    653

    Re: Whats the Best Automatic Pump for Winter Cover?

    I co-sign on the Rule. I went through three Little Giants my first two winters. As you know, in NNJ we get freeze followed by rain, and then back to freeze again all through the winter. So the pump has to stay out there to be useful. No bringing it in once you get to December as you would in colder places. The Rule electronics are designed to deal with this. The pump only runs if it is actually able to pump water. So if the hose is frozen downstream, it stays off. This was what killed the Little Giants.

    I put the whole pump in one of those mesh bags they sell for camping and cinch the neck up on the hose and power cord. It keeps the leaves from blocking the ports. You just have to pick the pump up once in a while and shake it off and put it down in a new place, maybe 3 times a winter. That's MUCH easier than taking the strainer/base off and cleaning it. Also, Rule has a three-year guarantee, ask what Little Giant has....
    Current: 28,000G 18'x36' I/G AnthonySylvan Plaster; Waterway 60 sq.ft. DE Filter; 1.0hp x 1.65 SF Two-Speed (B2982) WhisperFlo; 2004-Present
    Previous: 40,000G 20'x40' I/G Koven unlined WWII salvage 5/8" marine steel; Lomart Stainless Sand Filter; 3/4hp Hayward SuperPump; 1946-2003 (managed by me from about 1964)
    Ancient Taylor K-2000, upgraded with Taylor CH, TA, and FAS-DPD, and TFT CYA tests.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •