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    Brand new build - pls help me BBB

    First, let me say THIS PLACE ROCKS! I have been studying up and need to make sure I am heading in the right direction here. Our brand new ig plaster pool was filled 1 week ago today. I have been brushing 1-2 times a day and adding bleach and acid like crazy to try to keep the fc up and ph down. Water is currently cloudy but not too bad. I can easily see the bottom of the deep end (7ft). Here are my numbers:

    FC 3
    TC 3
    pH 7.8
    TA 340
    CH 50
    CYA 30

    From what I have read so far it seems like my first goal should be to get the TA down by continuing to feed this thing muratic acid and then aerate (by running my bubblers), and try to keep the FC around 4. From what I have read I don't think I should shock it until the plaster has had 30 days to cure so I guess it will just be cloudy until then?

    Am I doing right so far?

    Thanks!!!!
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    Re: Brand new build - pls help me BBB

    Right ... is the FC holding overnight?
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    Re: Brand new build - pls help me BBB

    Welcome!

    If you want to use BBB, you really need a good test kit. Hopefully, you already have one.

    Sounds like you have a good grasp of things already. If you filled it with city water and have kept chlorine in it, I don't know that you'll need to shock, unless you want peace of mind.
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    Re: Brand new build - pls help me BBB

    I wouldn't shock for 30 days if you can avoid it. Usually just adding 2-3 ppm of chlorine until it's holding is all you want to do at first. But you can test hourly and add chlorine if needed.

    If the FC isn't holding overnight, the cloudiness is something else...
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    Re: Brand new build - pls help me BBB

    Thanks for the feedback! I thought I had a good test kit until I got it home and realized I bought the K-2005 instead of the K-2006. I think I just need to get the FAS-DPD and I'll be in business. I'm going to try the FC loss overnight and see where things stand in the morning. I'll be sure to let you know.
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    Re: Brand new build - pls help me BBB

    Overnight loss was pretty close to 0, so we must be in pretty good shape. I guess I'll just follow the plan above.

    Do I need to be worried about the CH at this point?
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    Re: Brand new build - pls help me BBB

    Welcome to TFP....Raising your CH to 250 would be a good idea since you have a plaster pool
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    Re: Brand new build - pls help me BBB

    Actually for the first 30 days you should not adjust the CH - the level may change on it's own... so give that a few weeks.
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    Re: Brand new build - pls help me BBB

    Thanks again! Water is still pretty cloudy. Any ideas? Is it plaster dust? If so, can I control that?
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    Re: Brand new build - pls help me BBB

    oops Missed "Brand new"...sorry...TY FPM
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    Re: Brand new build - pls help me BBB - Update

    As of today:

    FC 3
    TC 3
    TA 250
    CH 60
    CYA 35

    Water is very clear and pretty!! I am adding about 2 gallons of bleach every day, and about 1/2 gallon of Muratic acid per day, and aerating for about 1 hour with the fountains. Seems like the TA is coming down gradually and CH is creeping up. Seems like I can't get the FC level to stay over 3 for anything but it is holding overnight, so I'm not worried at the moment. We have had a very hot/sunny spell so that must be sapping the FC. Would increasing the CYA level be a good move at this point? Can I just add some chlorine pucks to do that and also help me keep the FC level up?

    Thanks again for the advice!
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    Re: Brand new build - pls help me BBB

    Trichlor pucks would provide both acid and chlorine as well as CYA so are a fine choice at this stage, but will probably need to be supplemented with chlorinating liquid or bleach since the pucks dissolve rather slowly and it sounds like you're going through a lot of chlorine right now. 2 gallons (not 3/4-gallon jugs, but actual gallons) of 6% bleach in 32,000 gallons would be 3.9 ppm which is quite a lot per day. A higher CYA level should help retain the chlorine better, at least protecting it from the UV in sunlight.

    Just be very careful if using Trichlor pucks in a floating feeder that it doesn't get close to a pool surface since the high acidity isn't good when the water isn't circulating. If you have an inline chlorinator, you can use that instead, or if you use a feeder you can try and tether it away from the pool edge.

    Keep in mind that for every 10 ppm Free Chlorine (FC) added by Trichlor, it also increases Cyanuric Acid (CYA) by 6 ppm. So at your rate of chlorine usage, you'll be increasing the CYA level by around 16-17 ppm per week, though that rate should slow down as the CYA level rises. So you probably won't need to use the Trichlor for much longer than a week (to get to 50 ppm CYA) or two (to get to 60-65 ppm CYA) at the most. Be sure to follow the Chlorine / CYA Chart to keep the FC levels up to prevent algae growth as the CYA level rises.
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    Re: Brand new build - pls help me BBB

    I would check with the builder/plasterer on the CH and start to think about bringing that up. Water is "aggressive" when the CH is under 75 ppm, so that would concern me a bit at this point. Your range for CH is 200-400 ppm, so shooting for 150, even if you pick some up from the plaster later, would be the route I would take.

    Again, check with your builder/plasterer for your area first, and congrats on the new pool

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    Re: Brand new build - pls help me BBB

    Great advice! Many thanks. I'll keep you posted as things progress.

    BTW, we are spending lots of time in the water and LOVING IT!! Best family time we've had in a while.
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