Become a TFP Supporter Pool Math Forum Rules Pool School
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 24

Thread: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

  1. Back To Top    #1

    Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    Well due to my neglect over the last 7-10 days my pool has become green. Here are the parms.
    ph 7.2
    alk 80-100
    chlorine 1.0
    stabalizer 0

    These really means little to me a am a complete newb

    I put about 750 to 1 litre of algaecide in last night. vacumed the bottom. it does look better but still needs a bit of work.
    Should i add anything or just let it be and see.

    I ran a 15x 4 pool last year with no problems only added the pucks when needed. The problem this year is i dont have a cover or solar blanket to cover it up when not in use. I am purchasing a solar this week. The pump is for the pool 1500 gph which i suspect is too small?
    probally wont get to many responses today as most are probally out enjoying there pools the dont neglect lol
    18' x 52" Intex steel frame pool
    1500 gph pool pump
    Kingston Ontario Canada

  2. Back To Top    #2
    Mod Squad woodyp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    East Texas
    Posts
    8,993

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    Figure your gallons capacity in pool calculator. Go to walmart and buy stabilizer/conditioner which is CYA. Add enough to get to 30-50 range--into the skimmer. Buy BLEACH i.e. Clorox.---LOTS! Bring pool to shock level off the cya/chlorine chart in pool school---pour slowly in front of return. Keep it there overnite and keep the pump runing. Check in again here tomorrow with numbers. You may swim tomorrow if nothing is growing if you're lucky. Happy 4th! Get bleach in it-------NOW! You left yet???????...........!!!
    16x32x52" Steel Cornelius Miramar AGP Vinyl liner 13,100 gal. Buried 2 ft.
    2 Speed Hayward Power-Flo Matrix 85 g.p.m. 22" 250lb. sand filter hard plumbed
    Pool Rover Jr., Pool Blaster Max, Diver Dave TF100 Test Kit/Speed Stir
    Margaritaville Frozen Concoction Maker, Liqour Chiller, & Drink Mixer & Party Tub----Collect 'um all!

  3. Back To Top    #3
    poolgirl22's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Stephens City, VA
    Posts
    595

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    woody beat me...oh well!

    Welcome and happy independence day!

    You need chlorine.
    You need CYA/Stabilizer.
    You'll need to shock the pool. Shocking is a process not a product...read pool school.

    Read pool school today and check out the poolcalculator.
    You'll need a good test kit like the TFT100.

    Add your specs of your pool to your signature line via the control panel.

    Walmart is likely open so go grab a bunch of bleach. See if they have stabilizer/conditioner. The amount you need to get to 40 will depend on how many gallons in your pool. Use the pool calculator to figure out how much to buy. Set up the values from this site to give you a goal range.

    Someone is always around...we'll help you get things straitened out.
    Backyard pool-less, but used to be.....
    16,100 gallon, 18x38 3.5 ft deep oval AG, Vinyl, Sand, 1hp pump
    http://www.poolservicestech.com Liquidator
    http://www.poolcalculator.com/
    http://www.tftestkits.net TFT100 test kit

  4. Back To Top    #4

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    Thanks for the replies. Im sure i have some stabalizer here. How much bleach do i need 2 litres?Just staright bleach Like for clothes?
    18' x 52" Intex steel frame pool
    1500 gph pool pump
    Kingston Ontario Canada

  5. Back To Top    #5

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    ps on the test kit i have (ill get the brand ) it says ideal for clorine
    18' x 52" Intex steel frame pool
    1500 gph pool pump
    Kingston Ontario Canada

  6. Back To Top    #6
    poolgirl22's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Stephens City, VA
    Posts
    595

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by joeyt66
    Thanks for the replies. Im sure i have some stabalizer here. How much bleach do i need 2 litres?Just staright bleach Like for clothes?
    The amount of both stabilizer to add and bleach needed will be determined by poolcalculator and depends on the gallons in your pool. With no CYA right now your shock level is 10 according to pool school CYA chart. Once you add stabilizer to get to 40, the next day your shock can be 16. The sun will eat chlorine fast until you get some stablizer in there.

    Be sure you read pool school. Many basic questions can be answered there.

    Where are you located? (nevermind I see your signature now.) can someone interject on where to get a test kit that's helpful for this new member in canada? Not sure if can get the ones we always recommend...

    And yes, just regular plain old ultra bleach. No scented or splash free.
    Backyard pool-less, but used to be.....
    16,100 gallon, 18x38 3.5 ft deep oval AG, Vinyl, Sand, 1hp pump
    http://www.poolservicestech.com Liquidator
    http://www.poolcalculator.com/
    http://www.tftestkits.net TFT100 test kit

  7. Back To Top    #7

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    reading pool school thx
    i dont have stabalizer i need to purchase some
    i also have a couple sacks/bags of "sock it " will this work in place of bleach. My wife doesnt want to put bleach in. She thinks its some concoction i made up lol
    Sock it says it a shock treatment or super chlorination
    18' x 52" Intex steel frame pool
    1500 gph pool pump
    Kingston Ontario Canada

  8. Back To Top    #8
    poolgirl22's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Stephens City, VA
    Posts
    595

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    Have your wife read the stuff in pool school.

    The bags are fine for a time, but they either add calcium or more stabilizer than you need. Chlorine is chlorine is chlorine.

    I swear to you that if you use the TFP methods, your wife will be loving the pool more than ever and you will be the hero.
    Backyard pool-less, but used to be.....
    16,100 gallon, 18x38 3.5 ft deep oval AG, Vinyl, Sand, 1hp pump
    http://www.poolservicestech.com Liquidator
    http://www.poolcalculator.com/
    http://www.tftestkits.net TFT100 test kit

  9. Back To Top    #9

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by poolgirl22
    Have your wife read the stuff in pool school.

    The bags are fine for a time, but they either add calcium or more stabilizer than you need. Chlorine is chlorine is chlorine.

    I swear to you that if you use the TFP methods, your wife will be loving the pool more than ever and you will be the hero.
    hmmmm hero you say ......................................."off to walmart for some bleach"
    18' x 52" Intex steel frame pool
    1500 gph pool pump
    Kingston Ontario Canada

  10. Back To Top    #10

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    Oh i have this stuff called sunsheild made by guardex. Is this stabalizer
    from their directions
    "Sunshield´┐Ż prevents chlorine loss resulting from sun, while leaving no residue. A 100% cyanuric acid stabilizer."
    18' x 52" Intex steel frame pool
    1500 gph pool pump
    Kingston Ontario Canada

  11. Back To Top    #11

    In the Industry

    duraleigh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Sebring, Florida
    Posts
    30,077

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    Hey, Joey. Welcome to the forum.

    I don't want to dampen your enthusiasm but "how much beach?" will soon become your next issue. One of the tenents taught here is accurate testing and dosing.

    Your first dose of bleach and subsequent doses (there will be many if you do this right) will depend on your ability to test the water and determine how much bleach to put in.....among other things.

    You will need stabilizer....roughly 30ppm and I would put that in right away. Now comes the beach....enough to get your pool up to around 12-15ppm.

    That will be consumed in your pool very quickly and you will then need to replenish that bleach back up to 15ppm.

    Lots of folks here to help you get this all correct but I want you to know that your pool will not clean up overnight. Shocking and clearing a pool is a process that may (probably) will take you several days.

    PS - I would suggest at least 15-20 large jugs of bleach....it'll never be wasted.

    PPS - A 100% cyanuric acid stabilizer." Yep! CYA, Cyanuric acid and stabilizer are all the same thing. If you have enough to get your pool to 30 or so, you're good to go.
    Dave S.
    42k vinyl and concrete pool, 1.5hp pump, 140gpm filter
    TFTestkits , PoolMath , Pool School

  12. Back To Top    #12
    Mod Squad zea3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Houston, Texas
    Posts
    9,198

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    Look on the bags of shock and see what the ingredients are. If it lists cyuranic acid, CYA, stabilizer, or conditioner, as an ingredient, then track how many bags of it you use. This will raise your CYA level some, but you do not want to use it as your regular source of chlorine, as the CYA can rise too high very quickly.


    Take your wife to a pool store and show her the liquid chlorine label and then take her to the store and show her the label on a bottle of bleach. The active ingredient in both is sodium hypochlorite. Liquid chlorine usually at 10 to 12%. Bleach is usually 6%. If anything the bleach is safer to work with because it is a lower concentration of sodium hypochlorite!

    Powdered chlorine has to have something else added to it keep it in a solid form. So granular or pucks of chlorine will contain either CYA, calcium, or lithium. CYA will build up and over stabilize the pool, causing a need for higher and higher amounts of chlorine to kill organics in the water and keep the pool safe. Calcium will also build up in the water and at high levels puts you at risk of developing scale. The risk for a vinyl lined pool to develop scale is significantly less but can still happen. Both CYA and calcium can only be removed by draining and refilling the pool or by a professional reverse osmosis treatment. The reverse osmosis treatment is not widely available and you may not be able to find a service provider in your area. Lithium hypochlorite does not cause an excess of anything harmful in your pool but is much more expensive than any other form of chlorine, and not as easy to find.
    TFP Moderator
    Helpful links: TF Test Kits,TFP Pool School, PoolMath
    Vogue 21' round AG, Pentair 1 hp 2 speed pump, 36 sq ft DE filter, Hayward S180T 150# sand filter, Houston, Texas
    Love TFP? Become a
    TFP Supporter!

  13. Back To Top    #13

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    thanks again for the replies you guys are awsome!!!!!
    so i figure my pool is about 29,000 litres (stupid metric everything is n litrers for treament) on the stabalizer it says 100g for 10,000l to bring it too 10 ppm. so if i add 300g that brings my pool to to ten ppm how much for 30ppm?
    double or more?
    18' x 52" Intex steel frame pool
    1500 gph pool pump
    Kingston Ontario Canada

  14. Back To Top    #14
    Richard320's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    San Dimas, CA (LA County)
    Posts
    18,768

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by joeyt66
    thanks again for the replies you guys are awsome!!!!!
    so i figure my pool is about 29,000 litres (stupid metric everything is n litrers for treament) on the stabalizer it says 100g for 10,000l to bring it too 10 ppm. so if i add 300g that brings my pool to to ten ppm how much for 30ppm?
    double or more?
    http://www.poolcalculator.com/ can do the math for you. On top, in the brown bar, you can choose metric units. Then plug in the rest.
    16K freeform gunite with spa; Pentair 4000 DE filter; Century Whisperflow 1 HP; Pentair Minimax heater.
    Troublefree does not mean Maintenancefree. It's like brushing your teeth: You can spend a couple minutes a day and pennies a week or go to the dentist once a year and spend several thousand dollars.
    A pool is like a pet - you have to feed it every day, even the days you don't want to play with it!

  15. Back To Top    #15

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    ok so im going now to add the stabalizer How long before i can test it to see what im at. How long after do i add the bleach. I only picked up 2 at the store. It was expensive at the store. I live north of our big city (ie walmart) i will get more tomorrow. Will 2 be ok to add tonight or should i wait till i can add more. I have been reading the pool school (and will continue ) but its all overwhelming when i have no idea what is going on . But it is kinda fun learning about the water chemistry. I have a 220g saltwater aquarium then needs similar water chem. But on the same hand is way different. If that makes sense
    18' x 52" Intex steel frame pool
    1500 gph pool pump
    Kingston Ontario Canada

  16. Back To Top    #16

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    ok hoping for a quick response... The stabalizer is granular. do i put it right in the pool or dilute in water first.
    18' x 52" Intex steel frame pool
    1500 gph pool pump
    Kingston Ontario Canada

  17. Back To Top    #17

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    Put it in a regular cotton sock and secure it in front of the return jet. It will slowly dissolve into the water. Massaging it with your hands occasionally will speed it up a little. Can test for it one week after adding it -- so under-shoot rather than over-shoot your target. You can always add more but cannot get rid of it without draining water.
    POOL: Intex ultra new in 2014 (32 x 16 x 52) (seasonal; on concrete pad covered with 1.5" extruded or whatever foam insulation sheets - ugly, but comfy); added a through-wall skimmer; I add salt for feel. EQUIPMENT: Pentair SuperFlo pump (1HP, 2SPD); Pentair cartridge filter (200 sq. ft); Pentair MasterTemp natural gas heater (400,000 btu) Climate/Location: Eastern Nebraska

  18. Back To Top    #18

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by joeyt66
    ok hoping for a quick response... The stabalizer is granular. do i put it right in the pool or dilute in water first.
    You've got a couple of options. I've seen suggested to dilute in a bucket first and then pour in. Problem is not all of it dissolves, then some settles on the bottom, and that's not good as it is an 'acid'. So you could poor that mixture, or just put the granular in to the return, and then don't backwash for a week. I didn't like that idea either, as didn't want any of it getting stuck somewhere and affecting the pump. Most popular method suggested is to stick it in a sock and hang it in front of a return.

    I'd like to build on that last one to say I recommend a pair of pantyhose, cut the legs off, double it up, stick the stabilizer in there and hang it in front of the return. Then you can 'massage' it and help to break it up faster and get it in the water. I tried massaging it in a sock, and the sock let pieces through. Doubled up pantyhose solved that problem, but then I guess that only comes in to play if you want to massage it to get it in the water faster
    17k gal., sorta IG vinyl, 1.5 hp pump, 21" sand filter, EZVac cleaner

  19. Back To Top    #19

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    It is also okay to dissolve it in a bucket of pool water first. But don't just broadcast or dump it directly into the pool in granular form.
    POOL: Intex ultra new in 2014 (32 x 16 x 52) (seasonal; on concrete pad covered with 1.5" extruded or whatever foam insulation sheets - ugly, but comfy); added a through-wall skimmer; I add salt for feel. EQUIPMENT: Pentair SuperFlo pump (1HP, 2SPD); Pentair cartridge filter (200 sq. ft); Pentair MasterTemp natural gas heater (400,000 btu) Climate/Location: Eastern Nebraska

  20. Back To Top    #20

    Re: Swimming in green water ugh !!!!!!!HELP!!!

    haha woops, sorry crek31, guess we both posted at the same time.
    17k gal., sorta IG vinyl, 1.5 hp pump, 21" sand filter, EZVac cleaner

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •