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    Help - bubbles, girgles, cracks!!!

    I just finished starting up my system after replumbing yesterday. Here's what I've found...







    I have short videos of the girgling but I don't know how to attach them.

    I know there's obviously air in the system.. is the air coming from those cracks? if so, what to do?

    is the air coming from pump restarting? ( i moved it from one area of yard to another) I would think it would have been flushed out by now.

    Please Help!!!
    10,408 gallon, 21' round, 52 in' deep AG, half in ground
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    Re: Help - bubbles, girgles, cracks!!!

    Looks like the threaded adaptors were screwed in too tight and split the fittings. About the only thing you can do besides replace the skimmer and multiport is to try some epoxy on them. I'm not sure that will work but it may be worth a try.
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    Re: Help - bubbles, girgles, cracks!!!

    The original pool builder used silicone to secure the threaded ends.. would that help/work? These were used with teflon. Tightened too much is right!
    10,408 gallon, 21' round, 52 in' deep AG, half in ground
    Artesian Clear Master Plus Sand Filter, Artesian Turbo King 2 hp pump, installed June 08
    Denham Springs, Louisiana
    GEAUX TIGERS!
    Pics taken 2012
    http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad25 ... CN0606.jpg
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    Re: Help - bubbles, girgles, cracks!!!

    On the suction side silicone would probably work good and that's where the air is coming in at. I doubt it'd work very well on any pressure side leaks but it might be worth a try.
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    Re: Help - bubbles, girgles, cracks!!!

    thanks Bama! Will try silicone and see if it works!
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    Artesian Clear Master Plus Sand Filter, Artesian Turbo King 2 hp pump, installed June 08
    Denham Springs, Louisiana
    GEAUX TIGERS!
    Pics taken 2012
    http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad25 ... CN0606.jpg
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    Re: Help - bubbles, girgles, cracks!!!

    On the multiport valve crack, could I just replumb using those outer threads?
    10,408 gallon, 21' round, 52 in' deep AG, half in ground
    Artesian Clear Master Plus Sand Filter, Artesian Turbo King 2 hp pump, installed June 08
    Denham Springs, Louisiana
    GEAUX TIGERS!
    Pics taken 2012
    http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad25 ... CN0606.jpg
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    Re: Help - bubbles, girgles, cracks!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by esim13
    On the multiport valve crack, could I just replumb using those outer threads?
    I used to think you could but if you look carefully at them you'll see that they're not standard threads. Nor are they standard size.

    They're actually Buttress threads and I'm not familiar with any standard fittings that will engage them properly.
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    Re: Help - bubbles, girgles, cracks!!!

    Is it okay to continue running the pump with all the air in it? Or should I just turn it off? When it's off the crack at the skimmer box leaks.

    Also, when putting on the silicone do I need to turn the pump off or leave it running to perhaps suck some of the silicone in?

    Thanks!
    10,408 gallon, 21' round, 52 in' deep AG, half in ground
    Artesian Clear Master Plus Sand Filter, Artesian Turbo King 2 hp pump, installed June 08
    Denham Springs, Louisiana
    GEAUX TIGERS!
    Pics taken 2012
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    Re: Help - bubbles, girgles, cracks!!!

    That's a tough call. My initial thought is to run the pump while applying it because otherwise you're going to have to drain the pool to below the skimmer. Might as well try it and see if it works.
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    Re: Help - bubbles, girgles, cracks!!!

    It's been raining so I haven't been able to get out there a try the silicone. However, the bubbles in the basket are gone and I don't hear the girgling from either end anymore!!! I still planning on applying the silicone but I'm thinking since it was all new lines it took a little time for the air to get out.?!?!
    10,408 gallon, 21' round, 52 in' deep AG, half in ground
    Artesian Clear Master Plus Sand Filter, Artesian Turbo King 2 hp pump, installed June 08
    Denham Springs, Louisiana
    GEAUX TIGERS!
    Pics taken 2012
    http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad25 ... CN0606.jpg
    http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad25 ... CN0607.jpg

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    Re: Help - bubbles, girgles, cracks!!!

    I have found a product made by JB weld called (Water Weld). Its a putty epoxy that is in a stick like form. My multiport input had a crack and I pushed it in there it sets in about an hour and so far has held up. I found it at home depot.
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    Re: Help - bubbles, girgles, cracks!!!

    Thank you so much Fugitive. I'm about to head that way so I'll see if I can pick some up.
    10,408 gallon, 21' round, 52 in' deep AG, half in ground
    Artesian Clear Master Plus Sand Filter, Artesian Turbo King 2 hp pump, installed June 08
    Denham Springs, Louisiana
    GEAUX TIGERS!
    Pics taken 2012
    http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad25 ... CN0606.jpg
    http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad25 ... CN0607.jpg

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