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    Is my pump overpowered?

    After doing quite a bit of reading on here I have a feeling my pump may be overpowered for my pool. My pool is a 10,000g "Antigua" (kidney shape) fiberglass IG pool with one skimmer, one main drain and two returns. It was installed last October and is plumbed with 1.5" flex pipe up to the pump station. It is a very basic setup plumbed with a single ball valve to adjust the flow between the skimmer and main drain. I do not have a water feature, spa or automatic cleaner.

    With both returns pointed towards the bottom of the pool they create a noticeable flow at the water surface. If the ball valve is turned to full skimmer air is continuously introduced into the pump chamber. A simple water test over the pump basket cover and all exposed plumbing do not stop the bubbles from entering the pump basket. Since I do not have an automatic pool cleaner, I manually vac the pool by connecting the vac hose directly to the skimmer (no vac plate is used). If I turn the ball valve much at all with the pool vac connected air is continuously introduced into the skimmer basket. I do prime the vac hose by holding it against the return until the air is forced out. Also, if the water levels drops much below the the mark half way up the skimmer the skimmer will begin to pull in air.

    I'll try to give as much info as possible about my pool set up:

    Equipment
    1hp Hayward Super Pump (single speed, 1.1 Service Factor)
    Hayward Star-Clear C1200 cartridge filter (120gpm)
    Hayward CL200 in-line chlorinator (not used)
    Raypak 130,000BTU heater

    Piping - again, all piping up to the equipment pad is flex piping
    ~25ft of 1.5" piping to main drain, 5-6' rise between drain and pump
    ~25ft of 1.5" piping to skimmer
    ~40ft of 1.5" piping to return 1
    ~60ft of 1.5" piping to return 2
    Eyeballs in returns appear to be 1.5" in diameter with 7/8" openings

    The pool seems to be doing fine other than the air introduction into the pump basket. It only took a day to go from "pea soup" to relatively clear when I opened it in early April. I remember it taking a week or more with my previous pool and the sand filter. The pressure on the filter gauge read 10psi when it was new and had only risen to 11psi when I cleaned it last week after 2 months of operation including clearing up the "pea soup" upon opening. The gauge does go to zero when the pump is turned off.

    I'm assuming my pump is over sized?
    Will replacing the impeller with a smaller one lessen the flow and improve filtration? Is that possible with my current pump?
    Should I get a smaller pump to reduce water flow and increase filtration time...if so what size pump should I get?
    Lastly, can anyone give me a "guesstimate" of my pump run time with my current setup? Since it appears to be over sized I would like to run it as little as possible.

    Thank you for your help
    Matt

    10,000g "Antigua" (kidney shape) fiberglass IG pool, 1 hp Hayward Super Pump, Hayward 1200 Cart filter, 130K BTU heater, Savi Melody lights.

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    Re: Is my pump overpowered?

    Your pump is 25 percent larger than mine is and I have 2x the water. Everything else is simular. I would consider downsizing to perhaps a 3/4 or 1/2 hp pump. You could add a water feature to use some of the excess.
    I am guessing you have filled the pool to the proper level, and adding more water would not likely cure the air problem. Placing a garden hose in the skimmer and looking at the strainer basket for air would confirm this.


    Following my own advice has usually produced good results for me..... Your milage may vary.
    coloeb,
    20k gal. IG fiberglass/plaster rectangle 32'x16'
    Hayward Superpump 3/4 H.P. primary Hayward model 5060 Booster Pump
    Hayward Pro Series High Rate Sand Filter
    Pentair Model 320 automatic Chlorine/bromine in-line feeder

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    Re: Is my pump overpowered?

    I'd suggest a 3/4 HP pump (I consider 1/2 HP pumps water feature pumps only). Yes, the 1 HP is too big for your pool and you are spending more on electricity than you need to be!

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    Re: Is my pump overpowered?

    Does it matter that I have an above-ground pool? It's 12,500 gallons, but has a 2 HP pump on high (I believe 1/2 hp on low). Two return jets. I've been running 12 hours a day on high. Too much?
    15'x30'x54" oval AG; 12,500 gallons; Aquatrol SWG; Cartridge filter; 2-speed, 2-HP pump; 2 return jets

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    Re: Is my pump overpowered?

    I read in ground pool in your signature, so I assumed that was correct! Don't know much (okay; anything!) about above ground pools. Sorry!

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    Re: Is my pump overpowered?

    Quote Originally Posted by simicrintz
    I read in ground pool in your signature, so I assumed that was correct! Don't know much (okay; anything!) about above ground pools. Sorry!
    Different guy from the original poster.
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    Re: Is my pump overpowered?

    Quote Originally Posted by dsharp
    Does it matter that I have an above-ground pool? It's 12,500 gallons, but has a 2 HP pump on high (I believe 1/2 hp on low). Two return jets. I've been running 12 hours a day on high. Too much?
    You can experiment with your run time to see if your SWG keeps up with your chlorine demand. You can also run it on the lower speed for the same amount of time and see how your pool does.
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    Re: Is my pump overpowered?

    Quote Originally Posted by zea3
    Quote Originally Posted by simicrintz
    I read in ground pool in your signature, so I assumed that was correct! Don't know much (okay; anything!) about above ground pools. Sorry!
    Different guy from the original poster.
    So now you expect me to read and pay attention too, all at the same time

    Thanks for pointing that out for me! I really wasn't paying attention (can you tell??!)

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    Re: Is my pump overpowered?

    Quote Originally Posted by zea3
    Quote Originally Posted by dsharp
    Does it matter that I have an above-ground pool? It's 12,500 gallons, but has a 2 HP pump on high (I believe 1/2 hp on low). Two return jets. I've been running 12 hours a day on high. Too much?
    You can experiment with your run time to see if your SWG keeps up with your chlorine demand. You can also run it on the lower speed for the same amount of time and see how your pool does.
    I've been running the SWG on only 30-40% and it keeps up fine on high. I can always turn it up while running on low, but I was worried more about getting enough filtration on low.

    I'll give it a shot for the next couple of days and see how much the chlorine level drops on low at 30% and how much the skimmer basket is filtering (I have a skimmer basket liner in so it holds lots of gunk).
    15'x30'x54" oval AG; 12,500 gallons; Aquatrol SWG; Cartridge filter; 2-speed, 2-HP pump; 2 return jets

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    Re: Is my pump overpowered?

    Thanks to coloeb and simicrintz for confirming my suspicions.
    Matt

    10,000g "Antigua" (kidney shape) fiberglass IG pool, 1 hp Hayward Super Pump, Hayward 1200 Cart filter, 130K BTU heater, Savi Melody lights.

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