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    New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    I am new to the BBB method this year. I found this website over the winter and have followed this method since opening the pool during April. Up until now things have been great. I purchased the recommended test kit, also. Then, this week there has been a lot of rain. Now the water is getting cloudy, and the pool won't hold it's chlorine. This is a list of current levels:

    TC - 1
    CC - .5
    FC - .5
    TA - 110
    CH - 120
    CYA - 25
    PH - between 7.5 and 7.8

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    Welcome to TFP.

    You need more chlorine. With a CYA of 25, the suggested chlorine level is 3-4 ppm according to the Chlorine CYA Chart
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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    Thank you for the reply. I will try that again. I added bleach yesterday and had the TC up to 4.5. It just won't hold.
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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    It appears that you need to shock. You can do an overnight chlorine drop test to confirm but I think I'd just go ahead and shock it for a couple of days then do the overnight test to make sure. Also, in NC Your CYA probably isn't quite high enough. I'd bump it to between 30 & 40 AFTER you're done shocking. Low CYA will allow the sun to burn off a good bit of your FC each day. I have mine at 50ppm and still lose about 2ppm FC per day.
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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    Just a follow up to make sure that I'm on the right track. I took the advice of shocking the pool. I added the amount of bleach indicated by the chart at 9:30 this a.m. I just went back out to check(11:45) and did a drop test just to see where I stand:

    TC:6
    FC: 6
    CC:0

    Does that sound right? Also, just to clarify- am I supposed to keep the Chlorine at shock level for days? Thanks.
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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    One more thing - is it ok to run my polaris while shocking?
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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    Yes you need to keep the pool at shock level until.
    • You lose 1ppm or less of FC overnight[/*:m:291hjyn2]
    • You have .5CC or less[/*:m:291hjyn2]
    • And if you don't have a FAS-DPD kit, your water is clear[/*:m:291hjyn2]


    Here's the article in Pool School about how to shock your pool. Shocking Your Pool
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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    Ok. I shocked all day yesterday - checked level/added every hour. FC dropped 1 overnight. New levels:
    (as of 8:30)
    FC: 9
    CC: .5


    I added the recommended amount to get back up to shock level (10). Did a retest of chloring.
    10:30:

    FC:11
    CC: 0

    The pool is still very cloudy. You can see the bottom, but not very well. Should I keep shocking or what?
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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    I'm also still curious whether I can run my polaris with pool at shock levels..
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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    Quote Originally Posted by liljenjennc
    I'm also still curious whether I can run my polaris with pool at shock levels..
    Yes, you can run your Polaris while shocking.

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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    Thanks for the reply.

    But, should I keep shocking. I've met all of the requirements for shocking except the water being clear. The CC is 0, and I only lost 1 ppm on FC last night. The water is just still cloudy... If I shock for long enough will the water just eventually clear up?
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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    If you held your FC to 1 ppm or less in loss overnight, then you no longer need to shock. The cloudiness in the water is likely dead algae and this can be cleared with filtration and backwashing as apporpriate. Run your filter until clear.

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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    Ok. Will do. Thank you so much for your help!
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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    Ok. The latest is that the FC is holding steady at 11. I waited 3 hours to test and no change. The CC is still 0. I had intended to continue to shock(add bleach if necessary) until tomorrow morning so that I could do another drop test tonight to be sure. Now, though, the Ph has gone up to between 7.8 and 8.0. Is that a problem?
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    Don't worry about the PH until your FC level is back down to normal.
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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    My levels are back to normal, but my pool is still cloudy. Is it ok to use Sparkle Up to filter out the dead algae?
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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    still wondering about using the sparkle up... shocked for 2 days. FC holds. 0 CC. Water still very cloudy. Is sparkle up ok to use. Have a party planned for next weekend and would like for it to be sparkling by then.
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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    I didn't know what Sparkle Up was so I had to look,

    "BioGuard® Sparkle Up®
    Cellulose filtration aid does a phenomenal job in restoring your pool water's sparkle! Removes fine dirt, dead algae, pollen, etc. Also helps in the actual REMOVAL of iron, copper, manganese & other heavy metals from pool water. Can be used with ALL Filter types."

    I will guess that the experts will say this is OK, but only if you are already running the filter 24/7. But really, wait for someone more knowledgeable before you do it.
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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    Ok. Here's an update to where I'm at now...

    FC: 6
    CC: 0
    CYA: 40
    CH: 125
    Ph: 7.5
    TA: 130

    I shocked last week until I has no FC loss overnight. Also, my CC went down to 0. The pool still doesn't look good, at all, and we are expecting like 20 people next Saturday.. Here are some pictures of what it looks like now. Filter has been running 24/7 with little/no clearing. Help!





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    Re: New to BBB method. Having some trouble..

    Have you had the water tested for metals?
    How long has it been since you passed the overnight chlorine drop test?
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