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    Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    New Test Results after everything.

    ph 7.6
    FC <0.5
    TC 0.5
    CC 0
    TA 120
    CH 210
    CYA 60
    Phosphates 300

    Do I want to Shock. The Pool Calculator says aim for 18 if shock
    Otherwise keep between 5 and 9. With bleach should I error on the low side at 5 or go to 9

    As advised I will deal with the CH once Chlorine and ph are stable.

    Any help is much appreciated
    Thanks

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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    Quote Originally Posted by StuartPool
    New Test Results after everything.

    ph 7.6
    FC <0.5
    TC 0.5
    CC 0
    TA 120
    CH 210
    CYA 60
    Phosphates 300

    Do I want to Shock. The Pool Calculator says aim for 18 if shock
    Otherwise keep between 5 and 9. With bleach should I error on the low side at 5 or go to 9

    As advised I will deal with the CH once Chlorine and ph are stable.

    Any help is much appreciated
    Thanks

    You want to first look at the chlorine to CYA chart in pool school. If your CYA is 60 and you need to shock, it would be more like 24. However since your CCs are zero...If you are using a FASDPD test you should n't need to...How did you come up with the 0ppm for CCs. Right now it just looks like you have to get your normal level up to the recommendations in the Chlorine CYA chart.

    You also want to let us know about your pool, your filter and your pump and other equipment...Do you have a SWG how many gallons is your pool and etc.
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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    Quote Originally Posted by cubbybeave08
    Quote Originally Posted by StuartPool
    New Test Results after everything.

    ph 7.6
    FC <0.5
    TC 0.5
    CC 0
    TA 120
    CH 210
    CYA 60
    Phosphates 300

    Do I want to Shock. The Pool Calculator says aim for 18 if shock
    Otherwise keep between 5 and 9. With bleach should I error on the low side at 5 or go to 9

    As advised I will deal with the CH once Chlorine and ph are stable.

    Any help is much appreciated
    Thanks

    You want to first look at the chlorine to CYA chart in pool school. If your CYA is 60 and you need to shock, it would be more like 24. However since your CCs are zero...If you are using a FASDPD test you should n't need to...How did you come up with the 0ppm for CCs. Right now it just looks like you have to get your normal level up to the recommendations in the Chlorine CYA chart.

    You also want to let us know about your pool, your filter and your pump and other equipment...Do you have a SWG how many gallons is your pool and etc.

    You want it to be in a range of 5-7 ppm at 60 CYA...did you test or did pool store test for you.
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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    I did the testing.
    Checked it twice.
    FC I recorded as 0 because the color was more faint than the minimal 0.5 on the 2006 kit. I suppose 0 is not actually true. But less than 0.5
    I figure CC as TC-FC or was it the other way around. Its written down. lol

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    My cya was well above 100 had to drain and fill 3 times to get it to 60. 2/3 2/3 then 1/2 volume of pool
    I made a mistake and used pucks and powder - NEVER AGAIN

    These numbers are after the fills without any chemicals added. 2 hours circulating the water

    Right now the water is clear and you can see well to the bottom although I think it looks just a very slight brown green. It dosent sparlke. No alge present on the sides.

    The filter is clean at this time. I have rinsed and cleansed 3 times this week during the drain and refills

    The pool store says I need to shock it every week raising the level to 15 then let if fall and do it all again. They also wanted to sell me Calcium to add, I said not at this time.

    So here I am I am leaning on a shock as the water isnt as fresh looking as it should be. I did not test it for metals but being greenish brown I would think its alge in the water?
    Oh yes they did also want me to buy some metal out, again I said no untill I know what I am dealing with.

    Thanks everyone hope this helps you help me

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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    So I have gone with safety
    I decided that I would shock the pool first since I am not really sure how well the pool was being cleaned during the time the cya was so high.

    Calculator says use 2 gallons 3 quarts of 10% that should raise it to 18

    I have added 1.5 gallons and will recheck levels in 1 hour and add more as needed.
    Hopefully soon I will know how the pool is going to respond to the new chemicals.

    Now I have an issue. The taylor kit only goes up to 5 on chlorine test. Is it accurate to dilute with sterile water to get a guess on the level?

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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    Quote Originally Posted by StuartPool
    I did the testing.
    Checked it twice.
    FC I recorded as 0 because the color was more faint than the minimal 0.5 on the 2006 kit. I suppose 0 is not actually true. But less than 0.5
    I figure CC as TC-FC or was it the other way around. Its written down. lol

    I have a 15,500 gallon pool
    Solar Panels up a rise to the roof
    auto cleaner running on the main pipe line
    1.5 hp pump
    Hayward C900 filter pump
    Concrete with diamond brite surface
    skimmer and lower drain and 1 intake for auto vaccuum

    My cya was well above 100 had to drain and fill 3 times to get it to 60. 2/3 2/3 then 1/2 volume of pool
    I made a mistake and used pucks and powder - NEVER AGAIN

    These numbers are after the fills without any chemicals added. 2 hours circulating the water

    Right now the water is clear and you can see well to the bottom although I think it looks just a very slight brown green. It dosent sparlke. No alge present on the sides.

    The filter is clean at this time. I have rinsed and cleansed 3 times this week during the drain and refills

    The pool store says I need to shock it every week raising the level to 15 then let if fall and do it all again. They also wanted to sell me Calcium to add, I said not at this time.

    So here I am I am leaning on a shock as the water isnt as fresh looking as it should be. I did not test it for metals but being greenish brown I would think its alge in the water?
    Oh yes they did also want me to buy some metal out, again I said no untill I know what I am dealing with.

    Thanks everyone hope this helps you help me
    If you have just done a refill, I would just get the chlorine(FC) up to your normal range...5-7 for CYA of 60...At this point I would see if it holds...You could go to 10 FC if you wanted...If it holds and your CC is less than .5 than you are good to go.

    Regarding the pool store...If you keep up on your pool and test daily and add chlorine daily takes about 5 minutes each day...you shouldn't have to shock at all. I didn't shock last year except for after heavy rains, before I went on vacation and when I closed. Normal range for me was to keep FC between 5-7...In August when it was in the 90s ran my FC a little higher like 7-9 ppm. Read the pool school here and be able to avoid the pool store...the advice you get here is invaluable and it is not based on getting you to buy product you don't need.
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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    Quote Originally Posted by StuartPool
    So I have gone with safety
    I decided that I would shock the pool first since I am not really sure how well the pool was being cleaned during the time the cya was so high.

    Calculator says use 2 gallons 3 quarts of 10% that should raise it to 18

    I have added 1.5 gallons and will recheck levels in 1 hour and add more as needed.
    Hopefully soon I will know how the pool is going to respond to the new chemicals.

    Now I have an issue. The taylor kit only goes up to 5 on chlorine test. Is it accurate to dilute with sterile water to get a guess on the level?

    That is why you need the FAS DPD test...so you can know exactly what your pool's FC level is. You can do a dilution but it is not as accurate and is just a guestimation for the most part...Not as accurate as the FAS DPD test.
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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    So I have the Taylor K2006 test kit
    Is there a way I can get the reagents to test for higher levels? as well as the test bottle?

    By the way Im a native Hoosier as well.

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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    You have the K-2006? That kit has a FAS-DPD test and there is no color-matching scale. You may have the K-2005.
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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    Quote Originally Posted by StuartPool
    So I have the Taylor K2006 test kit
    Is there a way I can get the reagents to test for higher levels? as well as the test bottle?

    By the way Im a native Hoosier as well.

    I think Melt in the sun is right...I think you have the K2005 kit from taylor...Do you have powder? If you have Powder than you have the K2006.
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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    Quote Originally Posted by StuartPool
    So I have the Taylor K2006 test kit
    Is there a way I can get the reagents to test for higher levels? as well as the test bottle?

    By the way Im a native Hoosier as well.

    welcome hoosier...where from?
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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    The FAS-DPD test uses a powder that turns the sample pink. You then add drops till the sample goes clear. It measures FC and CC by 0.5s up to 50. This test is in the Taylor K-2006 kit (and the TF-100).

    The DPD test uses drops that turn the sample various shades of red, which is then compared to a color chart. It measures FC and TC up to 5. This test is in the Taylor K-2005 kit.

    The OTO test uses drops that turn the sample various shades of yellow, which is then compared to a color chart. It measures TC up to 5. This test is in the Taylor K-100X series of kits.
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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    Thank you I have the K2005 kit

    Can I buy the reagents from taylor and complete the test in the large side of the water sample kit that came with the 2005 kit?

    Here is what I found
    http://www.aquasuperstore.com/products/ ... =474824173

    Looks like I could use the 42 ml side of my tester to run this test, but I cannot be sure. Now I just need to know what reagents to get and to verify the amount of water sample needed

    Anyone with this type of kit have any ideas on the reagent numbers used to do this test? and he amount of water needed
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    You should get the FAS-DPD test from TFtestkits.net. That's what I did, after being in your exact situation.
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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    Quote Originally Posted by Melt In The Sun
    You should get the FAS-DPD test from TFtestkits.net. That's what I did, after being in your exact situation.
    Ahh yes it is a good place.
    http://tftestkits.net/FAS-DPD-Chlorine- ... t-p47.html
    Is this what I need?

    Looking at the refills I can find the dpd powder for 6.75 (R0870)
    Titration reagent (R0871) for 7.25
    I aleady have reagent R0003

    Can you verify that I need to test 25 ml of water.
    and how many scoops are put into the water of the powder
    Do I start by using the R003 to get color then titrate R0871 until it goes clear. I
    Is it 0.5 per drop? x number of drops? s(so at 18 I would be looking at 36 drops?)

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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    The usual FAS-DPD test goes like this: 25 ml sample; add 1 heaping (or 2 level) scoops of powder, mix; titrate with R0871 to clear the pink, drop count x 0.5 = FC. Then 5 drops R-0003, if it turns pink then titrate again with R0871 to clear the pink, drop count x 0.5 = CC. See my sig for a link to fuller instructions.
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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulR
    The usual FAS-DPD test goes like this: 25 ml sample; add 1 heaping (or 2 level) scoops of powder, mix; titrate with R0871 to clear the pink, drop count x 0.5 = FC. Then 5 drops R-0003, if it turns pink then titrate again with R0871 to clear the pink, drop count x 0.5 = CC. See my sig for a link to fuller instructions.
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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    Thank you I am going to order the reagents
    This is a necessary item to have.

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    Re: Can you check my figures B4 I dump it in

    Quote Originally Posted by frustratedpoolmom
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulR
    The usual FAS-DPD test goes like this: 25 ml sample; add 1 heaping (or 2 level) scoops of powder, mix; titrate with R0871 to clear the pink, drop count x 0.5 = FC. Then 5 drops R-0003, if it turns pink then titrate again with R0871 to clear the pink, drop count x 0.5 = CC. See my sig for a link to fuller instructions.
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    10 ml sample.....x 0.5
    Gah... that's, like, 3 times in 2 days I wrote something the opposite of what I meant. You are absolutely right.
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