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    I am there!!!!!update:No I'm not

    Thought I would start a new thread about my water, and forget about how I had screwed up in the past in another thread.
    FC held last night
    Numbers this a.m.
    FC 16
    CC 0
    TA 70
    CH 210
    CYA 40
    I added 5lbs. of CYA last night. (the 100% stuff this time Should get me to 70.

    So can I finally start letting my FC drop and then use my SWG? I had seen in another thread (oletrout) to let it get to around 5 and then turn on the SWG.

    When can I get an accurate pH reading?????
    I think I now know the difference in clear water, and sparkling water
    Lynn

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    Re: I am there!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sounds like a plan!

    You can get an accurate pH reading when your FC is below 10.

    Congrats!!

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    Re: I am there!!!!!!!!!!!

    I think I now know the difference in clear water, and sparkling water
    Yeah, it's a sense of accomplishment, huh? Nice work, ortho

    I still remember the first time I really got it crystal clear......pretty cool.
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    Re: I am there!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks Grace and Dave. I'm so excited
    I'm sure I'll be back with more questions later. You guys are the greatest
    Lynn

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    Re: I am there!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by orthofish
    I think I now know the difference in clear water, and sparkling water
    Yep, nice work on your part

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    Re: I am there!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks to everyone I would have never gotten this far if it weren't for TFP I've never owned a pool before, but by doing my research on this forum, everyone I talk to thinks I've owned one for years. That includes the sales people.
    I've still got a lot to learn, but it's a lot less now. 8)
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    Re: I am there!!!!!!!!!!!

    Congratulations! One thing, before you turn on your SWG - I believe you need to add salt - I don't see a salt level listed.
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    Re: I am there!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Buggsw
    Congratulations! One thing, before you turn on your SWG - I believe you need to add salt - I don't see a salt level listed.
    Oh yeah, I forgot that little bit of info. Salt level is 3000 by strips and also my Pro Logic. Guess that is just about right, huh??
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    Re: I am there!!!!!!!!!!!

    Helpful links: Pool School; CYA/Chlorine Chart
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    Quote Originally Posted by frustratedpoolmom
    Thanks FPMom. You've been a great help along with everyone else
    Lynn

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    Re: I am there!!!!!!!!!!!

    Just thought I'd check back in with numbers this morning to make sure I'm doing right

    FC 9
    CC 0
    pH 7.5
    TA 70
    CH 210
    Salt 3000
    Temp 81
    Should I do anything, or just keep letting my FC drop to 5 and turn on SWG???
    Man, this is way easier than keeping FC at shock level
    Lynn

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    Re: I am there!!!!!!!!!!!

    It only gets easier from here. Just let it drop baby! (then turn on the swg )
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    Re: I am there!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by frustratedpoolmom
    It only gets easier from here. Just let it drop baby! (then turn on the swg )
    Whew I was hoping you would say that FPMom. Have a great 4th
    Lynn

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    Re: I am there!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: I am there!!!!!!!!!!!

    O.K., all the congrats were not deserved. I've been testing my salt levels with a dip stick test(AquaChem I think) and looking at what my Pro Logic was reading. They had been pretty much in agreement, around 3000. Well, it rained almost 2" Sat. night and Sunday and my Pro Logic dropped to 2800. Sounded reasonable???? Ran out of dip sticks(could be my nickname). Bought some real AquaChek test strips and quess what??? It appears I have a salt level of 4870
    Oh wait, there's more I bought some 100% CYA, and working with an existing CYA of 30, added 5lbs of the 100% stuff. Today is day 6 of the addition and my CYA is a whopping 32-34
    My SWG ideal salt levels are 2700-3400. So am I going to have to drain some water???
    Numbers this evening:
    FC 5
    CC 0
    pH 7.5
    TA 70
    CH 200
    CYA 32-33
    Salt 4870
    Temp 84
    BTW. I hadn't turned on the SWG yet. Today could have been the day since my FC had dropped to 5. But the high salt level has nixed that
    Lynn

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    Re: I am there!!!!!!!!!!!

    BTW I have added a total of 520lbs of salt. But I have also used a lot of chlorine to keep my pool at shock level. At times, more than I needed
    PC says I need to drain 34% of my water That makes me want to I just filled the dang thing
    Lynn

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    Re: I am there!!!!!!!!!!!

    two things...on the salt strips they provide a reading vs salt level chart specific to each batch of strips...ie a reading of 5 with one batch may equal 2700, while a reading of 5 with another batch may be 3200. Make sure to compare your test result with the chart on the bottle from which the strip came from...not the olld bottle chart. I know I'm just speculating here, but I recall duraleigh (dave) mentioning this a while back.

    Also, I know you may be above you ideal level, but is the SWG working or is it erroring with high salt? If it's working and the water taste is tollerable, I see no reason to dillute. I'm just not experienced enough to say whether the high salt level has any effect on your swg.
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    Re: I am there!!!!!update:No I'm not

    Take it easy for a moment and slow down. You said the ProLogic is happy with the salt level. Why replace water if the SWG is happy?

    Likewise, there is some variation in CYA readings from test to test. You still need to add some CYA, but it might not be as much as the most recent test appears to indicate. I would add another 5 lbs and then see where you are.
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    Re: I am there!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by dmanb2b
    two things...on the salt strips they provide a reading vs salt level chart specific to each batch of strips...ie a reading of 5 with one batch may equal 2700, while a reading of 5 with another batch may be 3200. Make sure to compare your test result with the chart on the bottle from which the strip came from...not the olld bottle chart. I know I'm just speculating here, but I recall duraleigh (dave) mentioning this a while back.
    This is the first time I've used these test strips.


    Also, I know you may be above you ideal level, but is the SWG working or is it erroring with high salt? If it's working and the water taste is tollerable, I see no reason to dillute. I'm just not experienced enough to say whether the high salt level has any effect on your swg.
    I've yet to turn it on. New pool. The salt reading on the Pro Logic is reading 2800 right now. Was up to 3000 before the rain we got.
    Lynn

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    Re: I am there!!!!!update:No I'm not

    Don't worry about the results from the salt test strips. As long as the SWG is happy, you are good.
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