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    Fitting Leak - Repair Options

    Hi Guys, pictured is the tube that runs from my filter head. It looks the I have a lead from the threaded part of this fitting that goes into the PVC.

    Is there a way to fix this without having to replace the PVC?

    Thanks!

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    Hmm. The photo is turned.

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    Ok, I tried fixing the photo. No luck!
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    Re: Fitting Leak - Repair Options

    Maybe try some plumbers tape?
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    Re: Fitting Leak - Repair Options

    I would remove the fitting and try to refit it with teflon paste. I recommend that over teflon plumbers tape. If that doesn't work, you could also drill out the existing hole and insert a larger adapter between the PVC and existing fitting.
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    I would remove the fitting and try to refit it with teflon paste. I recommend that over teflon plumbers tape. If that doesn't work, you could also drill out the existing hole and insert a larger adapter between the PVC and existing fitting.
    Thanks! So these fittings. Are they everyday hardware store fittings or specialized in some way? Where would I look for fittings in the store?

    Afraid to take the fitting out. Its 10 years old. Afraid pipe will crumble away..
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    Re: Fitting Leak - Repair Options

    You should be able to find a matching fitting or adapter at the hardware store. What would help is to know what this line is connected to. Is this to an inline chlorinator? A SWG cell? To me it looks like a flow sensor for one of these two. If you can post the make and model of the device it's attached to, that would help.
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    Re: Fitting Leak - Repair Options

    Thanks! Its attached to the top of my Hayward Mega Plus 700 cartridge filter.
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    Re: Fitting Leak - Repair Options

    Another photo. I am not sure what this line is for (yet). Runs from my filter to the pipe shown above.

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    Re: Fitting Leak - Repair Options

    I'm at a loss for why that hose and fittings would be necessary. The gauge there on your filter is to measure pressure in the filter. I can't think of any reason to link that pressure gauge to the suction or pressure side of your plumbing... might have to put up the bat signal on this one.
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    Re: Fitting Leak - Repair Options

    Is this your pool or did you inherit this?

    Looks like whoever installed that gauge did so with a brass tee connection to remove air from the top of the filter. Maybe there was an air-leak issue and this was their way of solving it. Or, perhaps they thought that they needed to remove the air bubble at the top of the filter to get a better pressure read (?). No idea. But my opinion is that the entire thing is unnecessary. The gauge should simply be screwed into the 1/4" port on the air relief valve, no tee and tubing required.

    On the pipe fitting end, my guess is they drilled and tapped the SCH40 PVC. Only problem is, SCH40 wall thickness is so thin that there's probably only a couple of threads there which, I'm guessing, are shot now that you have a leak. If you do rip out that connection, then I would cut the PVC to remove the drilled section and just re-attach with a standard PVC pipe coupler. It's an easy repair job.
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    Re: Fitting Leak - Repair Options

    That fittings run/purpose is due to there being an ozone generator connected to the system suction. It bleeds off excess air that collects in the filter.

    Gary, as suggested above undo the compression nut and use a pair of plyers or correct sized wrench on the other half. Should be fine, doesn't look too fragile. Re-apply the thread sealant (any of the above suggestions will work) and then re-attach the compression nut. If it does break the good news is that it's a common fitting and your local pool supply or hardware stores will have something that matched. If the threads in the PVC pipe are boogered you can get a 1/4" NPT tap and cut or reshape new ones.

    Edit: If your ozone generator isn't working or missing all together (don't see it in the picture) just get rid of the entire thing and you can either cut and glue a coupling or buy a 1/4 NPT threaded plug and plug the hole. Ultrapure has a replacement kit #1008028 that comes with everything if wanting to take it that far.

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    Re: Fitting Leak - Repair Options

    Also, you might want to open up that filter and give the innards a good once-over with the manufacturer's schematic in hand to make sure that there isn't something else jury-rigged internally in the filter's internal air-bleed assembly....
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    Re: Fitting Leak - Repair Options

    Hey Team! Thanks! I did inherit this pool and it did have ozone generator that was removed. So, I will remove this mess. I would like to plug the hole in the PVC instead of cutting out the pipe section.
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    Re: Fitting Leak - Repair Options

    There was a Ozone generator that had this set up for removing excess air from the system since it was introduced before the filter.
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    I wasn't aware of the need for this air bleed set up when an ozone system is inline with the system. Thanks for the insight folks! Another reason not to use ozone.
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    Re: Fitting Leak - Repair Options

    Ok, I removed all the ozone fittings.

    To plug the PVC, I could only find a brass plug, and I used thread sealant. Will I be OK with a brass fitting in PVC? Thanks!

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    Re: Fitting Leak - Repair Options

    Sure. Brass in PVC is OK. I prefer PVC in PVC. It is inert, and it will expand and contract with heating and cooling more in synchronization. This is a very minor nit, so your brass will be just fine.
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    Re: Fitting Leak - Repair Options

    Brass is good, I've never seen a pvc plug only plastic and if the sun bakes your pipes it'll soon degrade and fall apart. Good job Gary.

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