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    New Build Tulsa Oklahoma

    Our pool was dug August 3rd and already had gunite by August 14th. Then a supposed problem with permits happened and nothing has been done until this week. Anyway we are deciding on the color of the plaster. I'm not clear if there is such a thing as regular plaster because when I asked about diamond brute it's like $3,000 more. I can find tons of pics of diamond brite, but I guess I'm not clear on just "regular" pool plaster.

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    Re: New Build Tulsa Oklahoma

    See a previous discussion here - Diamondbrite vs regular plaster
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    Re: New Build Tulsa Oklahoma

    Exactly the information I needed. Thanks.

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    Re: New Build Tulsa Oklahoma

    Here's some info. Our plaster is Bright White. It's what you would call regular.

    Classic White

    Standard white plaster is the tried and true pool and spa surface finish. White plaster has been around as long as people have been building swimming pools and it remains a popular choice in spite of the myriad of choices that have come into the market in recent years. Its simple combination of white cement, white marble aggregate and water make for an economical choice that will give you that classic swimming pool look.
    Life Expectancy and Warranty: Standard white plaster has a life expectancy of 6-8 years and carries a 2 year warranty.
    Strengths: When filled with water, pools and spas surfaced in white plaster create a brilliant, clean, light blue appearance that is very smooth to the touch. A long-time favorite for many customers, it remains the most affordable pool finish product on the market today. Standard white plaster is a reliable product when properly maintained.
    Concerns: It's important to know that white plaster is susceptible to all water conditions especially from attacks of improperly maintained or fluctuating chemical conditions. Therefore, it is only reasonable to expect that during the life of the product, it will change in appearance. These changes may be subtle or minor, perhaps slight shading or scaling, or far more dramatic in the form of pronounced staining, etching, or even cracking, in extreme cases.
    When selecting standard white plaster it's critical to be fully aware that it is a relatively "soft" finish compared to other options and one that is more susceptible to the effects of water chemistry than some more durable products.
    Diamond–Brite: Colored Ceramic Quartz

    A highly innovative addition to the palette of surface options has been the use of special colored ceramic aggregate products. These aggregates are basically a very specialized form of ceramic-coated sand that comes in a variety of pre-mixed plaster products. Our recommended quartz product is Diamond-brite by SGM products.
    Life Expectancy and Warranty: Diamond-brite has a life expectancy of 7-9 years and carries a 3 year warranty.
    Strengths: When combined with white or colored plaster, aggregates afford a broad range of colors, from vivid blues and reds, to more subtle hues such as beige or soft greens as well. It also has the advantage of creating a much more durable surface than standard plaster, and one that is harder and far more resistant to fluctuating chemical conditions.
    Concerns: Surfaces using aggregates are more expensive than standard plaster and can also be susceptible to some surface problems, especially in the presence of extreme water chemistry conditions.
    River Rok: Exposed Aggregate

    Perhaps the ultimate answer to all pool surface concerns comes in the form of pebble surfaces. Pebble surfaces consist of small, smooth river pebbles embedded throughout the applied product. Over the past decade, pebble surfaces have increased dramatically in popularity and come in a broad range of colors and color combinations. Our recommended exposed aggregate product is River Rok by SGM products.
    Life Expectancy and Warranty: River Rok has a life expectancy of 8-10 years and carries a 5 year warranty.
    Strengths: Pebble surfaces are beautiful, extremely natural in appearance, come in a wide range of colors and they are the most durable surface available. Because the stone material that comprises river pebbles is “chemically inert", it is unlikely to react with swimming pool or spa water and is therefore less impervious to attack or alterations in appearance.
    Concerns: Because the surface is comprised of pebbles, it is slightly more textured than the surfaces described above. Exposed aggregate surfaces are, again, more costly and under the most extreme chemical conditions, even pebble surfaces can suffer damage.

    Here's what ours looks like:
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    Matt- IG gunite pool and spa built Summer 2016: 32' x 20' overall with two 4' x 8' tanning ledges. 6'x6' attached spa with spillover. Depth 3' to 5' to 4'. 16.4K gal. Lueders Limestone retaining wall and coping. Equip: Pentair SVRS vari. speed pump. Pentair 60 sq. ft. DE filter. Pentair Kreepy Crawly Plat. cleaner. Pentair MasterTemp 400,000 BTU NG heater. 1.5 HP spa air blower. Nature2 Sanitizer. Taylor K-206C. My 2016 Build

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    Re: New Build Tulsa Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by mwalling View Post
    Here's some info. Our plaster is Bright White. It's what you would call regular.

    Classic White

    Standard white plaster is the tried and true pool and spa surface finish. White plaster has been around as long as people have been building swimming pools and it remains a popular choice in spite of the myriad of choices that have come into the market in recent years. Its simple combination of white cement, white marble aggregate and water make for an economical choice that will give you that classic swimming pool look.
    Life Expectancy and Warranty: Standard white plaster has a life expectancy of 6-8 years and carries a 2 year warranty.
    Strengths: When filled with water, pools and spas surfaced in white plaster create a brilliant, clean, light blue appearance that is very smooth to the touch. A long-time favorite for many customers, it remains the most affordable pool finish product on the market today. Standard white plaster is a reliable product when properly maintained.
    Concerns: It's important to know that white plaster is susceptible to all water conditions especially from attacks of improperly maintained or fluctuating chemical conditions. Therefore, it is only reasonable to expect that during the life of the product, it will change in appearance. These changes may be subtle or minor, perhaps slight shading or scaling, or far more dramatic in the form of pronounced staining, etching, or even cracking, in extreme cases.
    When selecting standard white plaster it's critical to be fully aware that it is a relatively "soft" finish compared to other options and one that is more susceptible to the effects of water chemistry than some more durable products.
    Diamond–Brite: Colored Ceramic Quartz

    A highly innovative addition to the palette of surface options has been the use of special colored ceramic aggregate products. These aggregates are basically a very specialized form of ceramic-coated sand that comes in a variety of pre-mixed plaster products. Our recommended quartz product is Diamond-brite by SGM products.
    Life Expectancy and Warranty: Diamond-brite has a life expectancy of 7-9 years and carries a 3 year warranty.
    Strengths: When combined with white or colored plaster, aggregates afford a broad range of colors, from vivid blues and reds, to more subtle hues such as beige or soft greens as well. It also has the advantage of creating a much more durable surface than standard plaster, and one that is harder and far more resistant to fluctuating chemical conditions.
    Concerns: Surfaces using aggregates are more expensive than standard plaster and can also be susceptible to some surface problems, especially in the presence of extreme water chemistry conditions.
    River Rok: Exposed Aggregate

    Perhaps the ultimate answer to all pool surface concerns comes in the form of pebble surfaces. Pebble surfaces consist of small, smooth river pebbles embedded throughout the applied product. Over the past decade, pebble surfaces have increased dramatically in popularity and come in a broad range of colors and color combinations. Our recommended exposed aggregate product is River Rok by SGM products.
    Life Expectancy and Warranty: River Rok has a life expectancy of 8-10 years and carries a 5 year warranty.
    Strengths: Pebble surfaces are beautiful, extremely natural in appearance, come in a wide range of colors and they are the most durable surface available. Because the stone material that comprises river pebbles is “chemically inert", it is unlikely to react with swimming pool or spa water and is therefore less impervious to attack or alterations in appearance.
    Concerns: Because the surface is comprised of pebbles, it is slightly more textured than the surfaces described above. Exposed aggregate surfaces are, again, more costly and under the most extreme chemical conditions, even pebble surfaces can suffer damage.
    I agree with most everything discussed here. Clearly the order of the expected lives are correct. However, for a properly maintained pool, to TFP water standards, the lifespans appear much lower than are being experienced.
    18'x38' Rectangle (3'-8 1/2' deep w/ diving board) - 27K gal. Saltwater w/ gray plaster
    Hayward equipment (cartridge filter, 2-speed pump, salt cell, automation) View Our Build
    Coverstar automatic pool cover | StoneMakers concrete retaining wall and decking
    Groundbreaking: 2/14/13 | Plaster: 5/21/2013 | First Swim: 5/30/2013

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