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Thread: New Owner Build - Napa, CA

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    New Owner Build - Napa, CA

    I've been lurking around for a few months, learning a lot of good information from the forums. My wife and I have decided we are ready to install an inground pool. I was at my friend's dad's house a few weeks ago and talked to him about his pool. He did the owner build thing a few years ago (he owns/runs an excavation company, so he did his own dirtwork) and between his advice and everything I've read on here, I'm convinced it's the way to go.

    We purchased a license for pool studio to get the layout and landscaping details ironed out. I've decided to do the electrical and plumbing work myself. I have a background in residential construction and remodel, so I'm pretty well equipped and knowledgeable about this sort of work. My buddy's dad will do the excavation and I'm going to contact a local gunite company that does a lot of work in this area. Hopefully they can get me in touch with a good steel shop to do the rebar. There's a local plaster company that is highly recommended, so I think I've got the subs sorted out.

    We are planning on an 18 x 40 rectangular pool, 3.5 - 8.0' deep with Coverstart autocover. For equipment I'm looking at:

    Pentair Intelliflo VS
    Pentair CCP cartidge filter (haven't decided on 420 vs 520 yet)
    Intellibrite lights (x2)
    Pentair MagicFalls sheer descents, 12" (x3)
    Globrite lights under the sheer descents (x3)
    Intellitouch automation

    For the cleaner, I can't decide if a robot is best or go with the Polaris 280 with Pentair Boostrite pump. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

    I'm going to have 2 main drains and 2 skimmers. I would appreciate brand/model recommendations on both. For the main drains, I'm assuming most gunite pools have field-fabricated sumps with a 2" pipe stubbed into the bottom? Both sumps would tee to a 3" suction back to the pad. Both skimmers will be home run with 2" to the pad.

    We are also considering a Paradise Slides 25' fiberglass waterslide. I've done a bit of research on the slides, but there's just not a lot of info out there. I did talk to both Dolphin and Paradise and I think I'll be going with Paradise. I need some help designing the water delivery system for the slide. Paradise states design flow rate of 200gpm (which seems really high!) and Dolphin states 125 - 150 for the same size slide. Either way, the Intelliflo VS MIGHT be able to supply close to the recommended flow rate. I think it could do 150 gpm with 3" suction and return piping going to the slide. I'm envisioning a 3" return that bypasses the filter for supply to the waterslide. I'm thinking the flow mode for the slide would have the drains and both skimmers fully open on the suction side, all pool returns shut off and the 3" return to the slide fully open. The sheer descents will be plumbed from a 2" line that could still be open in this mode. Do you think this would work or do I need to have a dedicated waterslide pump? If so, what brand/model would be appropriate? Also, where would this waterslide pump get it's suction? Could it tie to the suction manifold at the pad or does it need its own set of drain(s)?

    Also, I have a general questions regarding the return plumbing. I'm planning on four returns, plus one more for the Polaris (if we go that route). Where the returns stub through the wall, is that just a 1 1/2" pipe with a 1 1/2" MPT adapter on it? Obviously all of the returns and drain lines will be stubbed long and capped for the gunite, but what should it look like after gunite? Do the plaster guys cut them flush with the plaster or is that to be done prior to plaster? Dumb question, but I can't seem to find that info on the web anywhere.

    If you have any additional suggestions for different equipment, I'm definitely open to it. I've tried to stick with mostly Pentair as they are reasonably priced and have a pretty good reputation. Thanks in advance for any advice. I'm sure there will be many more questions to come!


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    Las Vegas

    Re: New Owner Build - Napa, CA

    I think it looks good... I have a 16x34 and went with the 520 filter... more time between cleanings.. I did sheer descents with LEDs built in... something to consider. You may want a pump just for water features.. any bubblers? can also get LED versions..
    Intellitouch, be sure and get the 8, you will wish you did from the beginning.. also you don't mention whether you are doing salt? IC60 means less Pump run times... Also, I went with a suction port in my pool... mainly because I wanted to be able to vacuum without going through the skimmer... the robots seem to be the favorite on here.. as to the returns.. probably every location is different, but they do a flush female threaded end that the eyeballs clip into... I like it because I can unclip (pinch?) the eyeball out and adapt something that would create a water feature in the returns... if that makes sense. The plasterers do the finish plumbing here.
    Cement Pond <--- build - 15K gal, 16 x 34 Rectangle, All Pentair - 520 Filter, 2 Intelliflo 2VST pumps (3hp) - 1 filter/1 water features, EasyTouch 8, Screen Logic, IC60 SWG,
    Pop-up Cleaners (Wet Deck and steps), 2 LED Bubblers, 3 LED 24" waterfalls, 5G LED Pool Light, Quartscapes Reflections Tahoe Blue plaster, Real Coral coping/deck, TF-100 Test Kit, 1766 Salt test kit.

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    New Owner Build - Napa, CA

    Are you going to have a diving board?
    Have you spec'd out the cover brackets and cover for your Coverstar?
    Highly recommend a robot which I don't have. Our Kreepy Krawly can't krawl up the steepish slope from the deep end to the shallow end no matter how I adjust the steering jets. Also you have to maintain and run a separate booster pump for the Polaris.
    Our pools/features are quite similar - see my signature.
    I'll have some follow-up questions/comments based in your replies.
    18'x38' Rectangle (3'-8 1/2' deep w/ diving board) - 27K gal. Saltwater w/ gray plaster
    Hayward equipment (cartridge filter, 2-speed pump, salt cell, automation) View Our Build
    Coverstar automatic pool cover | StoneMakers concrete retaining wall and decking
    Groundbreaking: 2/14/13 | Plaster: 5/21/2013 | First Swim: 5/30/2013

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